Hi Xianhua

Way 1 uses no random restarts at all, so each iteration starts where the last 
one left off, which is why the results are always the same. The other methods 
both use random restarts (which make them different from Way 1) and they each 
use fixed seeds (so they are deterministic) but the seeds are different (so 
they 
are different from each other).

My guess is that Ways 2 & 3 will give better results as they explore a larger 
part of the parameter space. However the best method is to follow Clark et al. 
and run mert several times and average. This advice also applies to most other 
methods of tuning MT systems, in particular online algorithms where the order 
of the data may matter.

cheers - Barry

On Tuesday 01 November 2011 01:42:26 Li Xianhua wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>       About the moses mert problem Neda mentioned, I tried three ways to
> make MERT deterministic, but their results between them are different.
>       Way 1: edit mert-moses.pl  line 105: "my $_RANDOM-RESTARTS=20",
> change 20 to 0
>       Way 2: switch to the mert-moses.pl call: --mertargs=" -r $seed " as
> Patrik said
>       Way 3: activate flag "--predictable-seed", as Nicola and Barry said
> 
>       I ran totally 9 experiments, 3 for each way with the same corpus and
> parameters, and compared the results. the results in the same way are the
> same, but the results with the same corpus but different ways are
>  different. So my questions are:
>       Are the three ways right to make MERT deterministic? Which is best?
> Why are they different?
> 
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> Best wishes!
> Xianhua Li
> Information Technology Laboratory
> Fujitsu Research & Development Center Co.,LTD.
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