I definitely make use of SGE when I run my experiments. I had
forgotten Barry's post. I haven't updated my code in a while, but if
SGE is currently broken, I'll definitely want to help fix it. I won't
be able to look at things until at least December, though, and more
likely January.

Lane


On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Guchun Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> Thanks for Barry's post back in January. I wasn't a member at that time, so
> didn't receive such a post. My motives will be mostly because of cost. With
> SGE, I can reuse some of the old but still usable machines and expand the
> network when necessary. Plus, it is quite unlikely I will be able to get
> hold of machines as powerful as yours. So if I want to have a relatively
> faster Moses system, SGE is a pretty good option for me.
> Hope this makes sense.
> Cheers,
> Guchun
>
> On 16 November 2011 12:27, Tom Hoar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guchun,
>>
>> May I ask what motivates you to work with SGE? Barry Haddow posted this
>> comment on the listĀ  in January this year. We have similar experiences.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] running moses on a cluster with sge
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:52:11 +0000
>> From: Barry Haddow <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: Tom Hoar <[email protected]>, "Noubours, Sandra"
>> <[email protected]>
>>
>> Hi Sandra
>>
>> The short answer is that it really depends how big your models are.
>> Running on a cluster helps speed up tuning because most of the time in
>> tuning is spent decoding, which can be easily parallelised by splitting up
>> the file into chunks. So each of the individual machines should be capable
>> of loading your models and running a decoder.
>>
>> The problem with using a cluster (as opposed to multicore) is that each
>> machine has to have its own ram, and if you want to load large models then
>> you need a lot of ram. Whereas with multicore, each thread can access the
>> same model. Sure, binarising saves a lot on ram usage, but it slows you down
>> and puts a lot of load on the filesystem which can cause problems on
>> clusters.
>>
>> Our group's machines are a mixture of 8 and 16 core Xeon 2.67GHz, with
>> 36-72G ram, no sge. We also have access to the university cluster, but since
>> the most ram you can get is 16G and sge hold jobs don't work at the moment
>> we don't really use it for moses any more,
>>
>> hope that helps - regards - Barry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:02:48 +0000, Guchun Zhang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to attach the mert.out file.
>>
>> Guchun
>
>
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