Maybe a tool like Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/) would be the best
alternative.
Trac comes with a wiki and has a lot of other useful tools like a
ticket system, roadmaps, etc.
It can link to the source code and highlight it. It is simple to use,
includes user/permission management and has lots of useful extensions.
But I'm not sure how easy it is to convert the existing documentation.

Jörg


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:
> i think it's only easy to do the easy things in the present wiki.
>
> It's impossible to add a picture, or an equation, or to add a new
> section to the sidebar, without ssh access to the edinburgh server. And
> err root access...
>
> and it's impossible to add user-based access or to be notified when the
> wiki's being changed. This kinda of means we can never let newer people
> edit the wiki, which is a shame since the docs are mostly for them and
> they should have the ability to edit it too. Ideally, i think it should
> be a cross between a manual and a stackoverflow forum.
>
> mediawiki might be another idea
>
>
>
> On 10/04/2012 22:07, Barry Haddow wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Thanks for all your suggestions!
>>
>> I'm not convinced about putting the documentation into github. At the moment
>> the documentation is in a wiki, which is good because it's really easy to
>> edit, the results of an edit are immediate, and you end up with a linked set
>> of html documents. The main issue that I see is that there is only one
>> password, so there's no way for people to get credit for their edits or 
>> create
>> areas to upload their own stuff.
>>
>> If we move to github, with the primary documentation written in Latex, then 
>> it
>> seems to make it harder to contribute. Not everyone knows Latex, it's harder
>> to link across documents with Latex, and you have to wait at least until you
>> check it in before you see how it affects the website. Wikis should make
>> collaborative editing easier, in a way that a document checked into source
>> control doesn't.
>>
>> Also, if we go down the github/latex (or github/docbook or whatever) route,
>> then there's a bit of hacking to convert the existing documentation to
>> editable latex, and rig up commit hooks in github. (I know we generate latex
>> from the existing documentation, but the generated latex is probably not
>> suitable for human  editing). I suppose if we think github/latex is a good
>> route then these problems could be overcome.
>>
>> Another option would be to switch to a different wiki option (e.g. mediawiki)
>> which allows user accounts and comments on pages. That would mean that people
>> could add their own pages, getting credit for their edits. It also has pdf
>> book export built-in. There would still be the format conversion pain...
>>
>> cheers - Barry
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday 10 April 2012 14:42:11 Hieu Hoang wrote:
>>> I think putting it as a special branch of github is a good idea.
>>> Anything where other people can add there own stuff to the docs is cool.
>>>
>>> another thing we might want is to be able to let people comment on a
>>> particular section. eg. suggested changes/queries. It might also move
>>> some of the newbie questions away from the mailing list
>>>
>>> there's just the small matter of cutting&  pasting everything from the
>>> current docs...
>>>
>>> On 10/04/2012 20:01, Lane Schwartz wrote:
>>>> Barry,
>>>>
>>>> What about making a special branch in the git repo for documentation?
>>>>
>>>> That way anyone with access to the git repo could easily add to the
>>>> documentation as needed.
>>>>
>>>> The nightly build could just check out that branch and compile it from
>>>> whatever format you want people to edit it in (presumably latex or
>>>> possibly docbook) into pdf (and possibly also html).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Lane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Barry Haddow<[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Hi Folks
>>>>
>>>>      I'm going to be spending some time over the next couple of weeks
>>>>      improving the
>>>>      Moses documentation (http://www.statmt.org/moses/), with the aim
>>>>      of making the
>>>>      Moses manual more up-to-date and useful.
>>>>
>>>>      I'd therefore like to know if anyone has any comments or
>>>>      corrections for the
>>>>      existing documentation, or suggestions on how to improve it. If
>>>>      you do, then
>>>>      please either mail me directly, or mail this list if you think
>>>>      it's more
>>>>      approriate.
>>>>
>>>>      I'd also be interested to hear your suggestions as to how to
>>>>      enable more
>>>>      people to contribute to the documentation. The Moses documentation is
>>>>      currently hosted on PmWiki, with password-enabled editing, and the
>>>>      manual is
>>>>      produced nightly by converting the wiki to latex and compiling it
>>>>      to pdf.
>>>>      However there might be other systems which would make it easier
>>>>      for anyone to
>>>>      sign up and contribute,
>>>>
>>>>      thanks for your help!
>>>>
>>>>      cheers - Barry
>>>>
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