Hi all, wouldn't it make more sense to make use of the Wiki infrastructure GitHub offers, then?
I doubt setting up a Trac (even with Git integration) would give any benefits over GitHub; just my 2 cents, though... Cheers, Christian -- Dipl.-Inf. Christian Federmann, Researcher, Language Technology Lab Office +1.09 -- Phone +49-681/857-75-5353, Fax +49-681/857-75-5338 DFKI GmbH, Campus D3 2, Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3, 66123 Saarbruecken http://www.dfki.de/~cfedermann ------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Tuesday, 10. April 2012 at 19:00, Joerg Tiedemann wrote: > Maybe a tool like Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/) would be the best > alternative. > Trac comes with a wiki and has a lot of other useful tools like a > ticket system, roadmaps, etc. > It can link to the source code and highlight it. It is simple to use, > includes user/permission management and has lots of useful extensions. > But I'm not sure how easy it is to convert the existing documentation. > > Jörg > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Hieu Hoang <fishandfrol...@gmail.com > (mailto:fishandfrol...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > i think it's only easy to do the easy things in the present wiki. > > > > It's impossible to add a picture, or an equation, or to add a new > > section to the sidebar, without ssh access to the edinburgh server. And > > err root access... > > > > and it's impossible to add user-based access or to be notified when the > > wiki's being changed. This kinda of means we can never let newer people > > edit the wiki, which is a shame since the docs are mostly for them and > > they should have the ability to edit it too. Ideally, i think it should > > be a cross between a manual and a stackoverflow forum. > > > > mediawiki might be another idea > > > > > > > > On 10/04/2012 22:07, Barry Haddow wrote: > > > Hi Folks > > > > > > Thanks for all your suggestions! > > > > > > I'm not convinced about putting the documentation into github. At the > > > moment > > > the documentation is in a wiki, which is good because it's really easy to > > > edit, the results of an edit are immediate, and you end up with a linked > > > set > > > of html documents. The main issue that I see is that there is only one > > > password, so there's no way for people to get credit for their edits or > > > create > > > areas to upload their own stuff. > > > > > > If we move to github, with the primary documentation written in Latex, > > > then it > > > seems to make it harder to contribute. Not everyone knows Latex, it's > > > harder > > > to link across documents with Latex, and you have to wait at least until > > > you > > > check it in before you see how it affects the website. Wikis should make > > > collaborative editing easier, in a way that a document checked into source > > > control doesn't. > > > > > > Also, if we go down the github/latex (or github/docbook or whatever) > > > route, > > > then there's a bit of hacking to convert the existing documentation to > > > editable latex, and rig up commit hooks in github. (I know we generate > > > latex > > > from the existing documentation, but the generated latex is probably not > > > suitable for human editing). I suppose if we think github/latex is a good > > > route then these problems could be overcome. > > > > > > Another option would be to switch to a different wiki option (e.g. > > > mediawiki) > > > which allows user accounts and comments on pages. That would mean that > > > people > > > could add their own pages, getting credit for their edits. It also has pdf > > > book export built-in. There would still be the format conversion pain... > > > > > > cheers - Barry > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 10 April 2012 14:42:11 Hieu Hoang wrote: > > > > I think putting it as a special branch of github is a good idea. > > > > Anything where other people can add there own stuff to the docs is cool. > > > > > > > > another thing we might want is to be able to let people comment on a > > > > particular section. eg. suggested changes/queries. It might also move > > > > some of the newbie questions away from the mailing list > > > > > > > > there's just the small matter of cutting& pasting everything from the > > > > current docs... > > > > > > > > On 10/04/2012 20:01, Lane Schwartz wrote: > > > > > Barry, > > > > > > > > > > What about making a special branch in the git repo for documentation? > > > > > > > > > > That way anyone with access to the git repo could easily add to the > > > > > documentation as needed. > > > > > > > > > > The nightly build could just check out that branch and compile it from > > > > > whatever format you want people to edit it in (presumably latex or > > > > > possibly docbook) into pdf (and possibly also html). > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Lane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Barry Haddow<bhad...@inf.ed.ac.uk > > > > > (mailto:bhad...@inf.ed.ac.uk) > > > > > <mailto:bhad...@inf.ed.ac.uk>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Folks > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to be spending some time over the next couple of weeks > > > > > improving the > > > > > Moses documentation (http://www.statmt.org/moses/), with the aim > > > > > of making the > > > > > Moses manual more up-to-date and useful. > > > > > > > > > > I'd therefore like to know if anyone has any comments or > > > > > corrections for the > > > > > existing documentation, or suggestions on how to improve it. If > > > > > you do, then > > > > > please either mail me directly, or mail this list if you think > > > > > it's more > > > > > approriate. > > > > > > > > > > I'd also be interested to hear your suggestions as to how to > > > > > enable more > > > > > people to contribute to the documentation. The Moses documentation is > > > > > currently hosted on PmWiki, with password-enabled editing, and the > > > > > manual is > > > > > produced nightly by converting the wiki to latex and compiling it > > > > > to pdf. > > > > > However there might be other systems which would make it easier > > > > > for anyone to > > > > > sign up and contribute, > > > > > > > > > > thanks for your help! > > > > > > > > > > cheers - Barry > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > > > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Moses-support mailing list > > > > > Moses-support@mit.edu <mailto:Moses-support@mit.edu> > > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Moses-support mailing list > > > > > Moses-support@mit.edu (mailto:Moses-support@mit.edu) > > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Barry Haddow > > > University of Edinburgh > > > +44 (0) 131 651 3173 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moses-support mailing list > > Moses-support@mit.edu (mailto:Moses-support@mit.edu) > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > > > > > -- > ********************************************************************************** > Jörg Tiedemann jorg.tiedem...@lingfil.uu.se > (mailto:jorg.tiedem...@lingfil.uu.se) > Dep. of Linguistics and Philology http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~joerg/ > Uppsala University tel: +46 (0)18 - 471 1412 > Box 635, SE-751 26 Uppsala/SWEDEN fax: +46 (0)18 - 471 1094 > > _______________________________________________ > Moses-support mailing list > Moses-support@mit.edu (mailto:Moses-support@mit.edu) > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support _______________________________________________ Moses-support mailing list Moses-support@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
