And just to repeat: LanguageModelInternal (the 3-gram implementation you mentioned) was removed from the source code.
Kenneth On 07/03/2012 12:48 PM, Tom Hoar wrote: > Ken, Hieu, Thanks for the updates. Our messages crossed. Consider my > comments both a history lesson and confirmation that training/tuning > requires a posix host. > > Tom > > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:45:12 +0700, Tom Hoar > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Jose, >> >> I just caught another part of your message "I assume that is >> possible >> to transfer the scripts that I have trained on Ubuntu to Windows." >> >> If you're talking about transferring the training scripts to MS >> Windows >> and training on Windows, this assumption is incorrect. Training a >> translation model uses a variety of Perl& shell scripts to train >> the >> language model and t-tables. Those scripts call out to various C++ >> apps >> and in some cases Python scripts. Many of these scripts and C++ >> application simply do not run on Windows. It might be possible to >> update >> the Perl and Python scripts, but the shell scripts would have to be >> re-written in another language and the C++ apps would need major >> work >> because many call-out to native Posix/Linux resources (e.g. "sort"). >> >> If you're talking about transferring the trained/tuned translation >> models to MS Windows, the previous messages apply. The blog you >> refer to >> was written in Jan 2010 and used a 2009 version of Moses with the >> SRILM-compatible 3-gram limited language model. If this compile >> option >> is still valid, you would have to train/tune translation models on >> Linux/Posix with 3-gram SRILM-compatible language model, then >> transfer/run them on MS Windows. KenLM language models would not be >> an >> option. I don't remember if binarized phrase/reordering tables were >> supported on Windows. Therefore, your MS Windows system would >> require >> plenty of RAM resources. >> >> I have no idea if the newer moses code for hierarchical models would >> compile/run as a native MS Windows app. >> >> Tom >> >> >> On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:09:15 +0100, Barry Haddow >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Jose >>> >>> Moses is a command line application, so the usual way to use it on >>> windows >>> would be through cygwin. >>> >>> If you want to use Moses in a GUI application, then probably the >>> best >>> way is >>> to run Moses server and have the GUI communicate with the server. >>> This has >>> been discussed on this list before. >>> >>> cheers - Barry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday 03 July 2012 13:03:14 Jose Casimiro Pereira wrote: >>>> Hi everyone. >>>> >>>> First of all, I apologize for my English. >>>> >>>> I'm a PhD student, from Portugal, and I'm starting to study and use >>>> MOSES >>>> tool. I installed MOSES on Ubuntu and everything works fine. >>>> The corpora that I have, was properly trained and worked fine with >>>> MOSES. >>>> >>>> For several constraints of the project I work, we need to put MOSES >>>> working on Microsoft Windows. >>>> I downloaded MOSES' source and compiled it, and I think it was well >>>> compiled (I was inspired by Wang Pidong instructions >>>> >>>> >>>> (http://wangpidong.blogspot.pt/2010/01/how-to-compile-moses-under-visual.ht >>>> ml)). >>>> >>>> The problem that I have, and for that I ask for help, is this: >>>> - how to make MOSES work on Windows? How to use MOSES to translate >>>> corpora? >>>> >>>> I read that is possible to transfer the training scripts from one >>>> location to another. So, I assume that is possible to transfer the >>>> scripts that I have trained on Ubuntu to Windows. But, again, how >>>> to >>>> use >>>> them? I haven't seen any example of it. >>>> >>>> There are several examples explaining how to use MOSES on Cygwin, >>>> but >>>> we pretend to use it outside Cygwin. >>>> I have seen examples, too, using MOSES on Linux and accessing it >>>> from Windows, using PuTTY. But, that isn't what we desired to use. >>>> >>>> I'll appreciate any help you could do. >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> j.casimiro >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moses-support mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Barry Haddow >>> University of Edinburgh >>> +44 (0) 131 651 3173 >>> >>> -- >>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moses-support mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moses-support mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support > > _______________________________________________ > Moses-support mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support _______________________________________________ Moses-support mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support
