As the title of this thread makes clear the purpose of reporting the bug was 
not to invite a discussion about conclusions made in my draft paper. Clearly a 
community that builds its career around research in SMT is unlikely to agree 
with those kinds of conclusions. The purpose was to report the flaw in the 
default behaviour of Moses in the hope that we could all agree that something 
ought to be done about it.


So far you seem to be the only one who has come even close to acknowledging 
that there is a problem with Moses default behaviour.


James


________________________________
From: Lane Schwartz <dowob...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 4:43 PM
To: Read, James C
Cc: Rico Sennrich; moses-support@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Major bug found in Moses

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Read, James C 
<jcr...@essex.ac.uk<mailto:jcr...@essex.ac.uk>> wrote:

Other than that it seems painfully clear that the point I meant to make has not 
been understood entirely. If the default behaviour produces BLEU scores 
considerably lower than merely selecting the most likely translation of each 
phrase then evidently there is something very wrong with the default behaviour. 
If we cannot agree on something as obvious as that then I really can't see this 
discussion making any productive progress.


James,

I understand your point. I think that the others who have responded also 
understand your point.

We simply disagree with your conclusion.

I encourage you to consider the possibility that if the many experts in this 
field who have responded all think that your conclusion is flawed, then there 
might be something to that.

I will agree, though, that this is a good time to conclude this discussion.

Sincerely,
Lane Schwartz



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