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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Centralized Motion Backend/interface? (Jon Boehm)
2. Re: Centralized Motion Backend/interface? (Colin Law)
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:59:50 -0700
From: Jon Boehm <jon.s.bo...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
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Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Centralized Motion Backend/interface?
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Steve,
Can you expand on "cheap weather proof barrel cameras." I've been looking
for these but I can't seem to find one that is all of these thing AND has a
simple RTSP (or similar) video interface*. *Most use a proprietary cloud
protocol to overseas facility and usually have HORRIBLE phone apps.
I'm curious what you have found and like.
Thanks
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Steve Goldsmith <sgj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a heterogeneous set up using smart cameras (MK802IV, ODROID C1+ and
> CHIP) as well as dumb cameras that stream to a central ODROID XU4. The
> smart cameras SCP motion MP4 videos to an NFS share and the dumb cameras
> record motion video to the same NFS share which is a 500G SSD. I'm using my
> Motion Detector project https://github.com/sgjava/motiondetector. This
> differs from DMS in that you can use a mix of smart and dumb cameras (I
> like cheap weather proof barrel cameras outside since we get a lot of rain
> in FL and it would ruin most SBCs without some type of weather proofing).
> The other advantage is Motion Detector is based on Computer Vision and
> Machine Learning, so you can use pedestrian detection, face
> detection/recognition, license plate scanning or whatever else you can
> dream up (assuming you understand CV and Python). Also, you can see where I
> built the world's cheapest smart camera with a $9 CHIP
> https://bbs.nextthing.co/t/worlds-cheapest-smart-camera/16619 which is
> currently in production at home.
>
> In any event, you can do the same thing with motion, but you'd have to use
> DMS, rsync or write something yourself to centralize the files. Personally
> I keep all my cameras on a separate router and subnet not connected to the
> Internet for security and to limit traffic on my LAN. I use an Apache
> reverse proxy and mod_ldap + mod_authnz_ldap to view live video from
> mjpg-streamer on smart cameras or proxy the dumb camera streams.
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Jon Boehm <jon.s.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have various Raspberry PIs around the house doing various things and a
>> master server. I occurred to me to stick webcams on these PIs for security
>> monitoring. However, I'm unclear on the best Motion topology for this kind
>> of setup. Can I have my master server receive streams from these PI-cams
>> and present them as in a single motion interface? OR would it be best to
>> have individual interfaces in each PI and open ports on my router to access
>> them all individually?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:26:24 +0100
From: Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Centralized Motion Backend/interface?
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On 20 June 2017 at 19:59, Jon Boehm <jon.s.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Can you expand on "cheap weather proof barrel cameras." I've been looking
> for these but I can't seem to find one that is all of these thing AND has a
> simple RTSP (or similar) video interface. Most use a proprietary cloud
> protocol to overseas facility and usually have HORRIBLE phone apps.
>
> I'm curious what you have found and like.
It all depends on what you mean by cheap. I use an xVision x2c4000bmp
for recording wildlife on my land. 4Mega pixels with remote zoom and
focus (not PT though). Focuses down to a few inches. RTSP with power
over ethernet so it just needs the ethernet cable (and the power
injector at the other end). It does need Windows for initial
configuration (an ActiveX control which needs IE - yuk) but the zoom
and focus can be driven from Android app. Around ?175 so maybe not
cheap.
https://www.hdcctv.co.uk/hd-ip-4-megapixel-motorized-lens-bullet-ip-cctv-security-camera-x2c4000bmp.html?___SID=U
Colin
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Steve Goldsmith <sgj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a heterogeneous set up using smart cameras (MK802IV, ODROID C1+ and
>> CHIP) as well as dumb cameras that stream to a central ODROID XU4. The smart
>> cameras SCP motion MP4 videos to an NFS share and the dumb cameras record
>> motion video to the same NFS share which is a 500G SSD. I'm using my Motion
>> Detector project https://github.com/sgjava/motiondetector. This differs from
>> DMS in that you can use a mix of smart and dumb cameras (I like cheap
>> weather proof barrel cameras outside since we get a lot of rain in FL and it
>> would ruin most SBCs without some type of weather proofing). The other
>> advantage is Motion Detector is based on Computer Vision and Machine
>> Learning, so you can use pedestrian detection, face detection/recognition,
>> license plate scanning or whatever else you can dream up (assuming you
>> understand CV and Python). Also, you can see where I built the world's
>> cheapest smart camera with a $9 CHIP
>> https://bbs.nextthing.co/t/worlds-cheapest-smart-camera/16619 which is
>> currently in production at home.
>>
>> In any event, you can do the same thing with motion, but you'd have to use
>> DMS, rsync or write something yourself to centralize the files. Personally I
>> keep all my cameras on a separate router and subnet not connected to the
>> Internet for security and to limit traffic on my LAN. I use an Apache
>> reverse proxy and mod_ldap + mod_authnz_ldap to view live video from
>> mjpg-streamer on smart cameras or proxy the dumb camera streams.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Jon Boehm <jon.s.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have various Raspberry PIs around the house doing various things and a
>>> master server. I occurred to me to stick webcams on these PIs for security
>>> monitoring. However, I'm unclear on the best Motion topology for this kind
>>> of setup. Can I have my master server receive streams from these PI-cams
>>> and present them as in a single motion interface? OR would it be best to
>>> have individual interfaces in each PI and open ports on my router to access
>>> them all individually?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
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>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steven P. Goldsmith
>>
>>
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