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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Feature request: Detect connections lost to Camera and
      stop recording (MrDave)
   2. Re: Car headlights and glitches (MrDave)
   3. Re: USB outdoor camera. (MrDave)
   4. Re: USB outdoor camera. (Curtis Villamizar)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 20:59:53 -0600
From: MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Feature request: Detect connections lost to
        Camera and stop recording
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I'm not sure how you've implemented the "continuously recording" 
(perhaps by setting 'emulate_motion on'?)? but you could just add 
scripts to 'on_camera_lost' and 'on_camera_found' which turns off and on 
the option being used via the webcontrol.

e.g.

!#/bin/bash

curl http://{yourip}:{port}/{threadid}/config/set?emulate_motion=on


Sample script/documentation:
https://rawgit.com/Motion-Project/motion/master/motion_config.html#OptDetail_Webcontrol
https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html#on_camera_lost

On 9/9/2018 3:20 PM, f...@gmx.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thx for sharing your project!
>
> motion keep recording continuously even when a cam lost its connection.
> After loosing connection motion records a Gray screen.
>
> It is possible to implement continuously recording only when a camera 
> is in good connection state?
> Best regards
> Sebastian
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 21:21:26 -0600
From: MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Car headlights and glitches
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You can also try the despeckle filter

https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html#despeckle_filter

It could also be helpful to save a night time false-positive movie file 
and then send it back through motion as a static file with the 
setup_mode on.? This would allow you to see the motion which is 
triggering it in the 'motion' stream.

https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html#Basic_Setup_Static

https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html#setup_mode


(Note that if you are building from source, some of this is a bit easier 
in the latest master branch.)

Dave
On 9/9/2018 3:47 PM, Tim Baker wrote:
> I?m using motion with a cheap SQ11 USB webcam on my Pi 2 Model B facing into 
> the garden.
>
> Going well and I?ve reduced the amount of false positives a lot, but at night 
> car headlights shine through gaps in the hedge, and even with a mask.pgm it 
> seems to sometimes trigger it at night. Daytime, it?s fine.
>
> Are there any settings that would help with this? The camera is behind a 
> glass window, and I think even though I?ve masked out the gaps in the hedge, 
> I suspect flare and refraction is causing ?movement? to the camera. The 
> camera is quite noisy, unsurprisingly given it?s cheap Chinese **??!  hence 
> the higher noise level and noise tune. I?d rather not extend the mask as a 
> lot of the centre is already blacked out. The camera isn?t NOIR or anything, 
> but I have PIR lights outside which should light up, and seem to be good 
> enough to show up as motion on the cam.
>
> I have these settings:
>
> lightswitch 100
> smart mask speed 10
> threshold 10000
> noise_level 256
> noise_tune on
> minimum_motion_frames 6
> event_gap 30
> stream_maxrate 30
> stream_motion on
> framerate 30
>
> Also I get grey block glitches sometimes, but I?m guessing that?s either the 
> long 5m cable extension to the camera or the cheap camera, only running it at 
> 720p as that?s the real resolution. Annoying but I can live with that?whereas 
> I?ve gotten the deluge of jpgs down to a slower stream now, but it would be 
> nice to have fewer at night.
>
> But I?m new to motion, so any help would be appreciated. Thinking of 
> upgrading the camera and maybe Pi Zero at some point which would be cleaner 
> and better, but until then this is a good temp solution.
>
> Tim
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 21:47:35 -0600
From: MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] USB outdoor camera.
Message-ID: <72c0a641-b805-634e-3339-4459874ac...@gmail.com>
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I did for a while...USB camera outdoors and connected to a PI that was 
indoors and then put the images/movies into the house. It worked but 
generally poor performance with low resolution. Then tried a more 
powerful computer and hooked all the USB cameras to that computer...only 
to find that the USB bus hits the maximum bandwidth with only one 
camera.? Plan on only one camera per USB bus.? Ultimately, I upgraded to 
POE IP cameras as they were much cheaper in aggregate and at the same 
time provided higher resolution/performance.

Wish I had just done the IPs from the start as the USB cameras and PIs 
are now pretty much just in a shoe box.


On 9/9/2018 5:42 PM, Adam Briggs via Motion-user wrote:
> Hello, Has anyone used an outdoor USB camera with Motion?
>
>
> Thanks,Adam.
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 00:23:36 -0400
From: Curtis Villamizar <cur...@ipv6.occnc.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] USB outdoor camera.
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ELP makes a nice USB security camera for about $40.  Works with one
Orange Pi One per camera but need to limit frame rate or drop
resolution if using motion.  Camera on outside, computer inside attic
space.  Using POE and POE adapter can be cheaper than having an
electrician add sockets to get AC power to provide the 5V.

The bottleneck seems to be poor encoder on most low end SoC.  Nearly
impossible to get a VP8/VP9 encoder today.  Seems to be improving but
might take a few years.  For now lossy h264 packed into avi seems to
be called for, which is pretty much what you get from the SoC built
into the camera, whether USB or IP camera.

Curtis


In message <72c0a641-b805-634e-3339-4459874ac...@gmail.com>
MrDave writes:
> 
> I did for a while...USB camera outdoors and connected to a PI that was 
> indoors and then put the images/movies into the house. It worked but 
> generally poor performance with low resolution. Then tried a more 
> powerful computer and hooked all the USB cameras to that computer...only 
> to find that the USB bus hits the maximum bandwidth with only one 
> camera.  Plan on only one camera per USB bus.  Ultimately, I upgraded to 
> POE IP cameras as they were much cheaper in aggregate and at the same 
> time provided higher resolution/performance.
>  
> Wish I had just done the IPs from the start as the USB cameras and PIs 
> are now pretty much just in a shoe box.
>  
> On 9/9/2018 5:42 PM, Adam Briggs via Motion-user wrote:
> > Hello, Has anyone used an outdoor USB camera with Motion?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,Adam.



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