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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and turns it into
      over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream! (Mike Wilson)
   2. Re: Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and turns it into
      over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream! (Joris)
   3. Re: Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and turns it into
      over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream! (Roger Lee)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:31:08 -0400
From: Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and
        turns it into over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream!
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        <caaveucpbkl2a8ozddnmffdnxqbcqgtlp_wv6aagsknjj4b3...@mail.gmail.com>
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Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think he's saying the motion live feed video
output, which I think is a mjpeg stream. Would be nice to have motion pass
through the rtsp if it could or possibly even encode in rtsp itself for the
live feeds.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have an rtsp stream showing a mostly static picture then it is
> very highly compressed (which is why it takes a lot of processor to
> decode it).  Mjpeg (I believe) is basically a stream of full images
> with no compression so may be much bigger.  I am surprised it is that
> much however, but if that is what it is then that is what it is.  Do
> you need to use mjpeg as the output stream?
>
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 01:57, Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am feeding a simple RTSP h264 feed 15fps 1280x720, into Motion at
> 800kbps, but if I use http MJPEG streaming at 15fps with 800x480 (converted
> smaller resolution), it becomes a over 22Mbps video stream on the browser.
> Why would Motion convert something relatively small into so large when I am
> actually scaling down to 480p? its using 22x more bandwidth than the
> original RTSP video feed!  Is there anyway to make it a lot leaner like
> less than 1Mbps?  Please see below 2 photos for the codec info from the VLC
> player!  I am trying to stream about 12 feeds with <800Kbps each to a
> tablet on the wall.   My tablet gets so hot and slow when trying to receive
> over 270Mbps videos stream.  It's really clogging my network.
> >
> > motionEyeOS Version
> >
> > I am running motion version:
> >
> > motionEye Version | 0.42
> > Motion Version | 4.2.2
> > OS Version | Raspbian 10
> >
> > Board Model
> >
> > I am using the following board/model:
> >
> > Raspberry Pi 4
> >
> > Camera
> >
> > I am using the following type of camera: (choose from V4L2, MMAL,
> Network Camera, Fast Network Camera and Simple MJPEG Camera).
> >
> > My camera model is: Hikvision Turret and Samsung Smartcam
> >
> > Network Connection
> >
> > My motion unit is connected to the network via: (choose your network
> connection, e.g. WiFi, Ethernet).
> >
> > Ethernet
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated!
> >
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:40:16 +0200
From: Joris <jo...@v5.be>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and
        turns it into over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream!
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My 2 cents:
Streaming rtsp is an entirely different beast from serving webpages and
mjpeg-"streaming".
I see neither as motion's job.
The best streaming quality and picture quality will come from accessing the
original source, if your device can handle it. I'd try to accomplish that
(using tcp/rtsp proxies or port forwarding) before trying to transcode.

Kind regards,
J


Op di 31 mrt. 2020 om 17:34 schreef Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com>:

> Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think he's saying the motion live feed video
> output, which I think is a mjpeg stream. Would be nice to have motion pass
> through the rtsp if it could or possibly even encode in rtsp itself for the
> live feeds.
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have an rtsp stream showing a mostly static picture then it is
>> very highly compressed (which is why it takes a lot of processor to
>> decode it).  Mjpeg (I believe) is basically a stream of full images
>> with no compression so may be much bigger.  I am surprised it is that
>> much however, but if that is what it is then that is what it is.  Do
>> you need to use mjpeg as the output stream?
>>
>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 01:57, Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am feeding a simple RTSP h264 feed 15fps 1280x720, into Motion at
>> 800kbps, but if I use http MJPEG streaming at 15fps with 800x480 (converted
>> smaller resolution), it becomes a over 22Mbps video stream on the browser.
>> Why would Motion convert something relatively small into so large when I am
>> actually scaling down to 480p? its using 22x more bandwidth than the
>> original RTSP video feed!  Is there anyway to make it a lot leaner like
>> less than 1Mbps?  Please see below 2 photos for the codec info from the VLC
>> player!  I am trying to stream about 12 feeds with <800Kbps each to a
>> tablet on the wall.   My tablet gets so hot and slow when trying to receive
>> over 270Mbps videos stream.  It's really clogging my network.
>> >
>> > motionEyeOS Version
>> >
>> > I am running motion version:
>> >
>> > motionEye Version | 0.42
>> > Motion Version | 4.2.2
>> > OS Version | Raspbian 10
>> >
>> > Board Model
>> >
>> > I am using the following board/model:
>> >
>> > Raspberry Pi 4
>> >
>> > Camera
>> >
>> > I am using the following type of camera: (choose from V4L2, MMAL,
>> Network Camera, Fast Network Camera and Simple MJPEG Camera).
>> >
>> > My camera model is: Hikvision Turret and Samsung Smartcam
>> >
>> > Network Connection
>> >
>> > My motion unit is connected to the network via: (choose your network
>> connection, e.g. WiFi, Ethernet).
>> >
>> > Ethernet
>> >
>> > Any help would be appreciated!
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Motion-user mailing list
>> > Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user
>> > https://motion-project.github.io/
>> >
>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/motion-user
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 09:42:25 -0700
From: Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and
        turns it into over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream!
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Hi Mike,

Yes, it?s exactly what I?m trying to do: a motion live feed mjpeg video
output. ActionTiles and Fully Kiosk has a nice way to gather all security
mjpeg video feeds and display along with all your smart home light switches
and home speakers. So, I can see and control everything on the tablet on
the wall. But it?s not scalable to have close to 300Mbps stream to the
tablet over Wifi if I cannot scale down each Mjpeg stream and if I want to
put more tablets on the wall in other bedrooms or hallway. If I have 3
tablets in the house, that would be close to 1Gbps data over WiFi, I think
it?s overkill and not a long term scalable solution. I just tested Blue
Iris, they have something really cool using Apple HAL, and can get each
stream down to 300Kbps yet still very clear video quality. Chrome can
handle nicely without spiking the CPU.  Unfortunately, ActionTiles doesn?t
support HAL.



On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:32 AM Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think he's saying the motion live feed video
> output, which I think is a mjpeg stream. Would be nice to have motion pass
> through the rtsp if it could or possibly even encode in rtsp itself for the
> live feeds.
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have an rtsp stream showing a mostly static picture then it is
>> very highly compressed (which is why it takes a lot of processor to
>> decode it).  Mjpeg (I believe) is basically a stream of full images
>> with no compression so may be much bigger.  I am surprised it is that
>> much however, but if that is what it is then that is what it is.  Do
>> you need to use mjpeg as the output stream?
>>
>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 01:57, Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am feeding a simple RTSP h264 feed 15fps 1280x720, into Motion at
>> 800kbps, but if I use http MJPEG streaming at 15fps with 800x480 (converted
>> smaller resolution), it becomes a over 22Mbps video stream on the browser.
>> Why would Motion convert something relatively small into so large when I am
>> actually scaling down to 480p? its using 22x more bandwidth than the
>> original RTSP video feed!  Is there anyway to make it a lot leaner like
>> less than 1Mbps?  Please see below 2 photos for the codec info from the VLC
>> player!  I am trying to stream about 12 feeds with <800Kbps each to a
>> tablet on the wall.   My tablet gets so hot and slow when trying to receive
>> over 270Mbps videos stream.  It's really clogging my network.
>> >
>> > motionEyeOS Version
>> >
>> > I am running motion version:
>> >
>> > motionEye Version | 0.42
>> > Motion Version | 4.2.2
>> > OS Version | Raspbian 10
>> >
>> > Board Model
>> >
>> > I am using the following board/model:
>> >
>> > Raspberry Pi 4
>> >
>> > Camera
>> >
>> > I am using the following type of camera: (choose from V4L2, MMAL,
>> Network Camera, Fast Network Camera and Simple MJPEG Camera).
>> >
>> > My camera model is: Hikvision Turret and Samsung Smartcam
>> >
>> > Network Connection
>> >
>> > My motion unit is connected to the network via: (choose your network
>> connection, e.g. WiFi, Ethernet).
>> >
>> > Ethernet
>> >
>> > Any help would be appreciated!
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Motion-user mailing list
>> > Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user
>> > https://motion-project.github.io/
>> >
>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/motion-user
>>
>>
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