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   1. Re: Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and turns it into
      over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream! (Roger Lee)
   2. Re: Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and turns it into
      over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream! (Roger Lee)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:00:41 -0700
From: Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and
        turns it into over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream!
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Sorry for my typo in my previous email.  I meant Apple HLS.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:42 AM Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes, it?s exactly what I?m trying to do: a motion live feed mjpeg video
> output. ActionTiles and Fully Kiosk has a nice way to gather all security
> mjpeg video feeds and display along with all your smart home light switches
> and home speakers. So, I can see and control everything on the tablet on
> the wall. But it?s not scalable to have close to 300Mbps stream to the
> tablet over Wifi if I cannot scale down each Mjpeg stream and if I want to
> put more tablets on the wall in other bedrooms or hallway. If I have 3
> tablets in the house, that would be close to 1Gbps data over WiFi, I think
> it?s overkill and not a long term scalable solution. I just tested Blue
> Iris, they have something really cool using Apple HAL, and can get each
> stream down to 300Kbps yet still very clear video quality. Chrome can
> handle nicely without spiking the CPU.  Unfortunately, ActionTiles doesn?t
> support HAL.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:32 AM Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think he's saying the motion live feed video
>> output, which I think is a mjpeg stream. Would be nice to have motion pass
>> through the rtsp if it could or possibly even encode in rtsp itself for the
>> live feeds.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have an rtsp stream showing a mostly static picture then it is
>>> very highly compressed (which is why it takes a lot of processor to
>>> decode it).  Mjpeg (I believe) is basically a stream of full images
>>> with no compression so may be much bigger.  I am surprised it is that
>>> much however, but if that is what it is then that is what it is.  Do
>>> you need to use mjpeg as the output stream?
>>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 01:57, Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I am feeding a simple RTSP h264 feed 15fps 1280x720, into Motion at
>>> 800kbps, but if I use http MJPEG streaming at 15fps with 800x480 (converted
>>> smaller resolution), it becomes a over 22Mbps video stream on the browser.
>>> Why would Motion convert something relatively small into so large when I am
>>> actually scaling down to 480p? its using 22x more bandwidth than the
>>> original RTSP video feed!  Is there anyway to make it a lot leaner like
>>> less than 1Mbps?  Please see below 2 photos for the codec info from the VLC
>>> player!  I am trying to stream about 12 feeds with <800Kbps each to a
>>> tablet on the wall.   My tablet gets so hot and slow when trying to receive
>>> over 270Mbps videos stream.  It's really clogging my network.
>>> >
>>> > motionEyeOS Version
>>> >
>>> > I am running motion version:
>>> >
>>> > motionEye Version | 0.42
>>> > Motion Version | 4.2.2
>>> > OS Version | Raspbian 10
>>> >
>>> > Board Model
>>> >
>>> > I am using the following board/model:
>>> >
>>> > Raspberry Pi 4
>>> >
>>> > Camera
>>> >
>>> > I am using the following type of camera: (choose from V4L2, MMAL,
>>> Network Camera, Fast Network Camera and Simple MJPEG Camera).
>>> >
>>> > My camera model is: Hikvision Turret and Samsung Smartcam
>>> >
>>> > Network Connection
>>> >
>>> > My motion unit is connected to the network via: (choose your network
>>> connection, e.g. WiFi, Ethernet).
>>> >
>>> > Ethernet
>>> >
>>> > Any help would be appreciated!
>>> >
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:16:43 -0700
From: Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion takes a 800kbps H264 MPEG4 feed and
        turns it into over 22Mbps MJPEG Stream!
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Thanks Joris.


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:41 AM Joris <jo...@v5.be> wrote:

> My 2 cents:
> Streaming rtsp is an entirely different beast from serving webpages and
> mjpeg-"streaming".
> I see neither as motion's job.
> The best streaming quality and picture quality will come from accessing
> the original source, if your device can handle it. I'd try to accomplish
> that (using tcp/rtsp proxies or port forwarding) before trying to transcode.
>
> Kind regards,
> J
>
>
> Op di 31 mrt. 2020 om 17:34 schreef Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think he's saying the motion live feed video
>> output, which I think is a mjpeg stream. Would be nice to have motion pass
>> through the rtsp if it could or possibly even encode in rtsp itself for the
>> live feeds.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have an rtsp stream showing a mostly static picture then it is
>>> very highly compressed (which is why it takes a lot of processor to
>>> decode it).  Mjpeg (I believe) is basically a stream of full images
>>> with no compression so may be much bigger.  I am surprised it is that
>>> much however, but if that is what it is then that is what it is.  Do
>>> you need to use mjpeg as the output stream?
>>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 01:57, Roger Lee <rogerlee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I am feeding a simple RTSP h264 feed 15fps 1280x720, into Motion at
>>> 800kbps, but if I use http MJPEG streaming at 15fps with 800x480 (converted
>>> smaller resolution), it becomes a over 22Mbps video stream on the browser.
>>> Why would Motion convert something relatively small into so large when I am
>>> actually scaling down to 480p? its using 22x more bandwidth than the
>>> original RTSP video feed!  Is there anyway to make it a lot leaner like
>>> less than 1Mbps?  Please see below 2 photos for the codec info from the VLC
>>> player!  I am trying to stream about 12 feeds with <800Kbps each to a
>>> tablet on the wall.   My tablet gets so hot and slow when trying to receive
>>> over 270Mbps videos stream.  It's really clogging my network.
>>> >
>>> > motionEyeOS Version
>>> >
>>> > I am running motion version:
>>> >
>>> > motionEye Version | 0.42
>>> > Motion Version | 4.2.2
>>> > OS Version | Raspbian 10
>>> >
>>> > Board Model
>>> >
>>> > I am using the following board/model:
>>> >
>>> > Raspberry Pi 4
>>> >
>>> > Camera
>>> >
>>> > I am using the following type of camera: (choose from V4L2, MMAL,
>>> Network Camera, Fast Network Camera and Simple MJPEG Camera).
>>> >
>>> > My camera model is: Hikvision Turret and Samsung Smartcam
>>> >
>>> > Network Connection
>>> >
>>> > My motion unit is connected to the network via: (choose your network
>>> connection, e.g. WiFi, Ethernet).
>>> >
>>> > Ethernet
>>> >
>>> > Any help would be appreciated!
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Motion-user mailing list
>>> > Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user
>>> > https://motion-project.github.io/
>>> >
>>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/motion-user
>>>
>>>
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