Circling back to the original message, has the raven been spotted today? I'm planning to venture to the area tomorrow morning. Erica
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: JULIAN SELLERS <juliansell...@msn.com> Date: 12/7/18 9:23 AM (GMT-06:00) To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Subject: Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven/Number Winter Robins There could well be multiple factors. I will just add that the "distinct inflection point around 1996" noted by Val Landwehr happened at about the time that large numbers of hackberry trees, planted after the demise of the elms, reached maturity. Julian ________________________________ From: Minnesota Birds <MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU> on behalf of Steve Weston <swesto...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 11:58 PM To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Subject: Re: [mou-net] Northern Raven/Number Winter Robins While the availability of fruit is important, a more limiting factor in numbers of robins in winter is the availability of liquid water. I believe that in recent years the warmer winters have resulted in more availability of liquid water, which should have increased the area where robins can thrive in winter. Steve Weston On Quigley Lake in Eagan, MN swest...@comcast.net On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:32 PM Val Landwehr < 0000012f44857088-dmarc-requ...@lists.umn.edu> wrote: > I was intrigued by the discussion of whether in recent years > more robins are being seen during winter in the Twin Cities(Charles Neil, > Mary White and J. Baumann). I think that I > have seen more robins, particularly in large flocks, in > recent years. To put this hypothesis to the test I looked at the > results from four Christmas Bird Counts over the years that are > online at the Minnesota Ornithologists' Union website. The > Christmas Bird Counts I checked were Bloomington CBC, St. Paul > (North) CBC, Excelsior CBC and the Minneapolis (North) CBC. > I found a distinct trend of more robins being counted during > the counts since the winter of 1996 than were in prior years. > The numbers vary widely each year, but there is a distinct > inflection point around 1996 for a larger number of robinssince that date > than prior to it. Since 1996, the number ofrobins counted varies greatly > from year to year, but I don't > see any clear evidence that the numbers are continuing to > increase. > Average number of robins counted at Twin Cities CBCs: > Bloomington St. Paul (North) Minneapolis (North) Excelsior > Pre 21.2 17.1 2.5 > 5.3 > 1996 > 1996- 367.4 420.5 114.6 > 181.2 > 2017 > > Median number of robins counted at Twin Cities CBCs: > Bloomington St. Paul (North) Minneapolis (North) Excelsior > Pre 5 6 0 > 1 > 1996 > 1996- 278 255 26 > 132 > 2017 > I considered that the increased number of robins might reflect > more birders participating in these Christmas counts as well > as an increase in birding skills. If there are more skillful > birders involved in these counts I would expect a similar > increase in the counts of other species. So I looked at the > counts reported by the Bloomington CBC for the black-capped > chickadee, blue jay and dark-eyed junco. I didn't find any > trends or long term changes in the number of these species. > Therefore, I'm convinced that the increased number of winter > robins is real. > I didn't attempt to see if there is a link between the increasein the > number of robins counted and weather/climate. > That leaves a question in my mind. Are the larger counts just > a reflection that the Twin Cities population of robins has > increased but the same proportion of that population is > overwintering as in the past or have the overwintering habits > of the robins changed? > The CBC data speaks only to the presence of robins in December. > Maybe the only change is when the robins migrate to warmer > regions. Maybe if we had many years of counts for January and > early February we would find that the number of robins in > those months hasn't changed much over the years. As Manley > Olson pointed out, once the robins exhaust the availability of > crab apples, perhaps they head south and are now just as > uncommon in January and February as they were back in the > 1950s through 1980s. > Val Landwehr > Minneapolis > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
