My apologies for the confusion about the checklist version. I now appreciate even more what Bob does as his checklist is a very useful checklist for birding in the field and for other uses.
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 9:31 AM Anthony Hertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Bil, > > You are confusing MOU’s checklists (and perhaps field cards) with Bob’s > private enterprise. Bob has offered checklists to anyone who wants them for > (I think) essentially just printing costs, but he does not do this for the > MOU and never has. For 50 years, the MOU has offered its own field cards > and checklists and those are not going anywhere. You can get digital > versions from our web site for free, or printed copies though our Resources > Manager for the cost of printing. The checklists we have at the state fair > are free to the public and are funded by the MOU as part of a budget line > for all costs incurred by being involved. > > > On May 27, 2019, at 9:03 A.M., Bill Tefft <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I appreciate all the effort and cost that goes into producing up-to-date > > checklists. Thanks for sharing the information about costs and raising > the > > consideration of access to the lists. And I also thank you for your > > willingness to keep the lists up to date annually. > > This discussion has made me think more about the lists and a number of > > questions come to mind as I wonder about how not having printed copies > > might change things going forward. > > I am on the MOU Education Committee and the greatest contact with the > > checklists that I experience is the opportunity to present Minnesota > Birds > > to people including children who are not familiar with Minnesota's birds > > and MOU's role in maintaining and up-to-date record of birds recorded in > > the state, how they are classified and their current names. > > I know there are many ways that "birders" keep listing records and that > MOU > > and other organizations supported that activity. I also know that their > > are many online means of getting information. > > > > However, I wonder how the printing cost has been funded in the past. > > > > It MOU has contributed to meeting that cost, then what was the cost, what > > function in MOU would support this cost, has a change been recommended by > > the Board, Education Committee or part of the organization? > > > > Is this a part of a total consideration of what we can provide to inform > > and recruit none members: a brochure, a bookmark, a checklist etc.? > > > > The 2019 State Fair is really just ahead and soon plans and schedules > will > > be made to staff and supply MOU's booth at the fair. Does your message > > mean that checklists won't be available for the MOU booth? > > > > I will check in with others on the Education Committee to see what has > been > > planned. > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:00 AM Bob Ekblad <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> As many of you know, I have been providing birding checklists for > Minnesota > >> birds to Minnesota birders for many years. As prices for printing and > >> mailing have gone up I have tried to keep the costs of the checklists > at or > >> even slightly below my costs. I have decided to make a change to save > >> costs > >> for everyone. > >> > >> > >> > >> I am now providing access to everyone to print the checklists > yourselves - > >> effectively reducing your costs to just the paper and printing for the > >> quantity you want (eliminating mailing costs). > >> > >> > >> > >> You can now obtain a PDF file of the checklist from my website that you > can > >> use to print your own checklists when you need them and in the quantity > you > >> desire. There is no charge for using the design I create, which > includes > >> having the latest names and taxonomic order established annually by the > AOS > >> (formerly AOU) and ABA and the regular, casual and accidental species > >> assignments as identified by the MOURC that are assigned every 5 years. > >> > >> > >> > >> To access the checklist go to my website (below) and check out the > >> Checklist > >> info under Minnesota Birding Information. > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy the checklists and good birding. > >> > >> > >> > >> Bob Ekblad > >> > >> Olmsted County in SE Minnesota > >> > >> http://www.Birding-Minnesota.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---- > >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *Bill [email protected] <[email protected]>218-235-8078* > > > > ---- > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > Anthony Hertzel > [email protected] > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > -- *Bill [email protected] <[email protected]>218-235-8078* ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
