I am getting all of the information straight and want to make sure that after raising my questions that I get it right and give due credit both to Bob for his work and contributions and to the MOU organization and all of its members that voluntarily support and contribute to all of the knowledge and services they contribute to the study of birds in Minnesota.
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 9:31 AM Anthony Hertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Bil, > > You are confusing MOU’s checklists (and perhaps field cards) with Bob’s > private enterprise. Bob has offered checklists to anyone who wants them for > (I think) essentially just printing costs, but he does not do this for the > MOU and never has. For 50 years, the MOU has offered its own field cards > and checklists and those are not going anywhere. You can get digital > versions from our web site for free, or printed copies though our Resources > Manager for the cost of printing. The checklists we have at the state fair > are free to the public and are funded by the MOU as part of a budget line > for all costs incurred by being involved. > > > On May 27, 2019, at 9:03 A.M., Bill Tefft <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I appreciate all the effort and cost that goes into producing up-to-date > > checklists. Thanks for sharing the information about costs and raising > the > > consideration of access to the lists. And I also thank you for your > > willingness to keep the lists up to date annually. > > This discussion has made me think more about the lists and a number of > > questions come to mind as I wonder about how not having printed copies > > might change things going forward. > > I am on the MOU Education Committee and the greatest contact with the > > checklists that I experience is the opportunity to present Minnesota > Birds > > to people including children who are not familiar with Minnesota's birds > > and MOU's role in maintaining and up-to-date record of birds recorded in > > the state, how they are classified and their current names. > > I know there are many ways that "birders" keep listing records and that > MOU > > and other organizations supported that activity. I also know that their > > are many online means of getting information. > > > > However, I wonder how the printing cost has been funded in the past. > > > > It MOU has contributed to meeting that cost, then what was the cost, what > > function in MOU would support this cost, has a change been recommended by > > the Board, Education Committee or part of the organization? > > > > Is this a part of a total consideration of what we can provide to inform > > and recruit none members: a brochure, a bookmark, a checklist etc.? > > > > The 2019 State Fair is really just ahead and soon plans and schedules > will > > be made to staff and supply MOU's booth at the fair. Does your message > > mean that checklists won't be available for the MOU booth? > > > > I will check in with others on the Education Committee to see what has > been > > planned. > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:00 AM Bob Ekblad <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> As many of you know, I have been providing birding checklists for > Minnesota > >> birds to Minnesota birders for many years. As prices for printing and > >> mailing have gone up I have tried to keep the costs of the checklists > at or > >> even slightly below my costs. I have decided to make a change to save > >> costs > >> for everyone. > >> > >> > >> > >> I am now providing access to everyone to print the checklists > yourselves - > >> effectively reducing your costs to just the paper and printing for the > >> quantity you want (eliminating mailing costs). > >> > >> > >> > >> You can now obtain a PDF file of the checklist from my website that you > can > >> use to print your own checklists when you need them and in the quantity > you > >> desire. There is no charge for using the design I create, which > includes > >> having the latest names and taxonomic order established annually by the > AOS > >> (formerly AOU) and ABA and the regular, casual and accidental species > >> assignments as identified by the MOURC that are assigned every 5 years. > >> > >> > >> > >> To access the checklist go to my website (below) and check out the > >> Checklist > >> info under Minnesota Birding Information. > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy the checklists and good birding. > >> > >> > >> > >> Bob Ekblad > >> > >> Olmsted County in SE Minnesota > >> > >> http://www.Birding-Minnesota.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---- > >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *Bill [email protected] <[email protected]>218-235-8078* > > > > ---- > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > Anthony Hertzel > [email protected] > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > -- *Bill [email protected] <[email protected]>218-235-8078* ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
