I hear and share both your frustrations - did talk to Theo this week
(thanks, that was very helpful). Not much has happened at the Board end,
but will update in any case.

Can't do it today - in an all-day conference, but will do so tomorrow and
reply to both your specific questions/comments.

Best
Bishakha

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Theo10011 <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would like to echo Alice, and say that, I have been completely out of
> touch of any updates for the past few months. After the Berlin meeting, and
> the IRC discussion, I have not head a single conversation about Movement
> Roles. I saw that Sue referred to Movement roles 2 in an IRC meeting a
> couple of months ago, she was surprised that I was not aware, I had no idea
> there was a second iteration of Movement roles(still not sure). There has
> been little to no discussion about this, I wasn't informed about any
> discussions at Haifa or the presentation to the board. Like Alice, I'm
> frustrated by the lack of information and communication.
>
> I did however, have a conversation with Bishakha about it very recently,
> we were planning on talking more about it next year since the holidays are
> just around the corner. I still have no idea what the status is, and if
> there is going to be a future to the discussions but I am more than willing
> to participate. I would like to see some conclusion to the process. I would
> be happy to start or partake in discussions again, if others are interested.
>
> Regards
> Theo
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Alice Wiegand <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi SJ, hi all,
>>
>> the last input to this mailing list was made by SJ a day before the
>> board meeting in October. Phoebe announced the minutes (
>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07 ) at the end of
>> November and stated on internal-l that there where no decisions or
>> votes regarding movement roles. Nothing else.
>>
>> Is there something going on currently? Can we hear some of the voices
>> of your board discussion? Are you planning next steps in the process?
>> The preparation for the chapters meeting is going to begin soon. If
>> the movement roles project still exists, there is no way to not
>> present something or reanimate it at that meeting. What are we going
>> to do?
>>
>> Unfortunately I feel not only frustrated about the process but also
>> uninformed about the current status. And I mean both, the status of
>> the movement roles process (which doesn't really look like doing any
>> kind of processing) and the status of this group. Is there still a
>> group existing? Is there still interest in having a group (formerly
>> called core team)? What are the tasks the group is responsible for? In
>> my last mail I talked about burying and reanimation and more than then
>> I would prefer to put an end to it at this stage and officially
>> restart next year with a new team and defined roles and tasks.
>>
>> If you want us/me/the chapters/the wm-universe to remain part of this,
>> you need to give us more information. Please.
>>
>>
>> Regards, Alice.
>>
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