Hi Béria,

I think it depends what depends on this decision. I can very well imagine
that many decisions in fund dissemination depend on who exactly is involved
in this movement of ours. For that discussion it would be helpful to have
already a good definition of the groups - then we can have a constructive
discussion next about what the rights and obligations of each of these
groups (and the WMF) would be to each other and in general. So if (*if*) we
want to have the discussion about fund dissemination in Berlin, it would
make a lot of sense to me to decide on these definitions (a little while)
before the meeting. Unless you would be fine to have that discussion about
funds without knowing who exactly is in this movement.

Another reason (less important) could be that it would be helpful if
chapcom could implement some parts of this in its procedures at its face to
face meeting in Berlin, too.

We can't keep pushing all decisions to Berlin, because that would simply
result in an ineffective meeting. Anyway, I might be wrong that this is the
reasoning of Samuel on this timeline, but that would for me be a valid
argument :) The question would the be however, is there a good reason to
wait? Are there strong disagreements? (I know there are some parts of it
which we disagreed on within chapcom, because of the practical
implementations).

Best,

Lodewijk

No dia Sábado, 11 de Fevereiro de 2012, Béria [email protected]:

> She meant that you pushing a decision BEFORE the Chapters meeting by
> placing a deadline before the meeting. And I second: What is the rush?
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> On 11 February 2012 04:41, Samuel Klein <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 
> 'cvml', '[email protected]');>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, aude 
>> <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');>>
>> wrote:
>> > On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Samuel Klein 
>> > <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '[email protected]');>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Wikimedia Board is drafting two resolutions to recognize new
>> >> models of affiliation.  The text will be posted on Meta for discussion
>> >> and improvement, between now and 10 March.
>> >
>> > Will you please send this to internal-l? Is there really any consensus
>> or broad support for this?
>>
>> Hi Katie.  It should be sent out this weekend.
>> I believe there is broad support for recognizing new models for
>> affiliation; if there are implementation details for which there is
>> not such support, I expect they will be sorted out in public
>> discussion.
>>
>> > And how about discussion at the chapter meeting?
>> > Maybe a joint chapter-wmf session at chapters meeting to talk?
>>
>> This was put out in advance of the chapter meeting, to lead to
>> discussion there.
>> A joint session is a good idea, do you mean specifically about new
>> affiliations?
>>
>> SJ
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