I gave my personal opinion one hour before your mail Samuel. _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 11 February 2012 19:41, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Béria, > > > > I think it depends what depends on this decision. I can very well imagine > > that many decisions in fund dissemination depend on who exactly is > involved > > in this movement of ours. For that discussion it would be helpful to have > > already a good definition of the groups - then we can have a constructive > > discussion next about what the rights and obligations of each of these > > groups (and the WMF) would be to each other and in general. So if (*if*) > we > > want to have the discussion about fund dissemination in Berlin, it would > > make a lot of sense to me to decide on these definitions (a little while) > > before the meeting. Unless you would be fine to have that discussion > about > > funds without knowing who exactly is in this movement. > > I agree with this - clarity is important for the sake of these discussions. > > However the new affiliations would have limited impact on funds > dissemination; any group that would be recognized as a new affiliation > can already get funds through an existing channel. Recognizing other > affiliations primarily makes it easier for groups to use the > trademarks, and for the movement to give social recognition to a group > before it passes the high bar of 'critical mass' of effort. > > > Another reason (less important) could be that it would be helpful if > chapcom > > could implement some parts of this in its procedures at its face to face > > meeting in Berlin, too. > > > > We can't keep pushing all decisions to Berlin, because that would simply > > result in an ineffective meeting. > > These two reasons are more relevant to working this out in advance of > Berlin. There are details to discuss and sort out about affiliations, > but there are larger issues that will require face-to-face discussion. > > Lodewijk writes: > > The question would the be however, is there a good reason to > > wait? Are there strong disagreements? (I know there are some parts of it > > which we disagreed on within chapcom, because of the practical > > implementations). > > I would like to know the answer as well. Any practical problems can > be amended or changed. > Are there philosophical disagreements? > > Sam. >
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