Julien Pierre wrote:
Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote:
I don't know why exactly the NSS team considers the statement by the owner of the patent that any implementation of X509 is safe is not clear enough.
I think everybody else does.

A pointer to the statement you are referring to would be appreciated.

Well, after checking I might have confused a summary of the situation by an external party with a statement of the patent owner.
But the situation is globally equivalent to the above.

In reaction to the threat of seeing anything related to CRLDP removed from RFC 2459, Entrust agreed to offering freely a license that can be described as completely open.

Anybody can get a world-wide, non-exclusive, royalty-free licence for that patent for the certificate update and revocation methods of X.509 v3. The only condition is reciprocally not to claim any patent right on the same domain.

The info that I have is that one needs to sign a license with the patent holder in order to use it.

You seem to be making a problem here of something that isn't one.

First, from the moment where this is not public domain, yes, you need a licence to use it, that can not be avoided, just like I need a licence to use NSS. If I agree to comply neither with the MPL nor with the GPL, I'm not granted a licence and I can't use NSS.

The clumsy part is that you need to fill the licence, sign it and send it to Entrust. But when we talk about the licence for a patent, this is in fact a useful protection. Without it, there's nothing that materialize receiving the licence, and when you got it.

May I bring your attention to the Unisys/GIF case, where Unisys repeatedly changed the rule of the game and began charging people in situations where they initially said it would be free of charge ? If there had been a way to prove they had received a licence under the initial terms, Unisys would not have been able to arbitrarily apply them the new conditions.
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