[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) writes:
> I actually suggested updating OCSP to provide true live status
> information (akin to the accepted/declined response in CC
> transactions) a few years ago, but this was violently rejected by
> PKIX members because that's Not How X.509 Works.  One list member in
> particular became almost hysterical over the suggestion, going so
> far as to privately petition the WG chair to have the proposal
> killed (it's public record on the PKIX mailing list, although some
> of the more extreme hysterics occured in private mail).

which then is essentiall the FSTC/FAST 
http://www.fstc.org/

from the mid-90s .... but it makes having the digital certificate
redundant and supefluous (aka you don't need to have a digital
certificate to do a real live transaction) ... which i have repeatedly
commented to the PKIX and OCSP factions (and may have been part of the
reason for their violent reaction to you suggestion).

in '98 i was on a "PKI" panel at nissc conference with four other
people ... three representing the major CAs and one other person.

the people representing representing three major CAs (CTO typically)
talked about how hard everybody has heard that PKIs were ... and they
were here to tell you that it is much, much simpler than you have
heard.

I then talked about the majority of the business processes in the
world can be upgraded to digital signature authentication w/o
requiring digital certificates.

the fifth person that talked about being responsible for the largest
and longest deployed PKI operation ... and people may have heard about
how hard PKIs were, and they were here to tell you that they are
actually much, much harder than anything you have heard.

-- 
Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/
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