In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gervase Markham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > We could have rules for high-profile pages, perhaps, but we would
>> > have to define high-profile.
>>
>> Why only high-profile? What legitimate excuse is there for any HTML
>> page on mozilla.org to be invalid?
>
> Because there are 5 of us and 16,000 of them :-) Are you volunteering to
> fix all 16,000?
I'm volunteering to help, but I'm not going to fight a losing battle. If
the proper controls are in place, all 16,000 (or damn near it) will
eventually be corrected. You aren't going to cure the disease with a few
band-aid patches. New sores will just open up and fester. There *is* a
cure. It might be bitter to some at first, but it's an acquired taste.
You know it's good for you. ;-)
> OK, fair enough. _I_ _consider_ only those to be worth making the effort
> to fix. If other people want to fix other ones, that's cool :-)
>
>> > And we probably wouldn't want to - part of the point of this exercise
>> > is to lower the barrier to entry for people wanting to contribute.
>>
>> Requiring valid HTML pages is too high a barrier to entry for
>> contributing to a Web site???
>
> Yes :-)
Then this effort is bound to be ineffective. We'll still have crap when
it's done, it will just be different crap. That is a waste of time.
> Well, it depends how you validate them (as in, as what sort of
> HTML.)
The document contains that information. You simply validate them.
> Also, if we are going to encourage people to use Mozilla
> Composer, what happens if it produces stuff that doesn't pass.
Then it gets rejected and significant bugs in Mozilla Composer are
highlighted. I don't see the downside.
>> > I think it's good enough that the high-profile pages validate
>> > correctly. There is no way we can check and fix all 16,000 of them!
>>
>> Not all at once. But the proper controls can both keep the problem from
>> getting any worse, and ensure that the number of invalid pages on the
>> site goes only down, never up.
>
> I agree. But that's a different point entirely.
I don't think it is, because I don't think this effort is worthwhile if
those controls aren't considered a prerequisite.
Braden
