fantasai wrote:
>...
> Events are highly date-oriented. Now, explain to me what,
> specifically, is wrong with
> http://mozilla.org/events/1999/mozilla.party/

Nothing.

>...
> So, to put it shortly, the generic location of the article would
> contain dated subdirectories to hold previous versions. ?

Correct.

>...
> As for my question, it was intended to ask "What is so
> objectionable about allowing any mozilla-sanctioned concerted
> effort to obtain its own directory to facilitate coordination
> of its members?"

Nothing. But calling such directories `projects' should be avoided, if
there is a term to describe them which is more meaningful to a visitor
to the site than `projects' is.

>...
>  | >  | The ones I posted were just examples. Most of the documents
>  | >  | currently linked to from <http://mozilla.org/docs/> (from the
>  | >  | `Core Mozilla architecture' section onwards) would end up in
>  | >  | the `Developer' > `Mozilla Developer' section.
>  | >
>  | > These all go at that level?
>  |
>  | No.
> 
> Then why didn't you say so? I can't read your mind, Matthew.

I did say so. See the sentence beginning `Most of the documents ...',
paying particular attention to the word `most' at the start of that sentence.

If you want a full list of where *every* document linked from that page
would go, just ask. (Otherwise I'll assume that spending the time to
post such a list now would just bore everyone to tears.)

>...
>  | Developer > Mozilla Developer > Qualities > Portability > C++
>  | portability guide
> 
> I'm thinking, either "Qualities" includes stuff like
> localizability and i18n,

Indeed it does. Other qualities include accessibility, usability,
scriptability, and performance. Anything which applies to the Mozilla
code as a whole, rather than just one particular module.

>...
>  | > Which specific pages under QA would go under Get Involved?
>  | > Those asking for help? Those aimed at beginners? Those aimed
>  | > at people beginning to become advanced?
>  |
>  | All of the above.
> 
> The Verification guidelines are aimed both at advanced and
> beginning-to-become-advanced.

The only `verification guidelines' I can find on mozilla.org are
<http://mozilla.org/quality/mailnews/mail-bug-verification.html> (which
is in a mailnews/ hierarchy despite having nothing in particular to do
with mail/news). Is this the document you are referring to? It seems
mainly aimed at beginner-to-intermediate QA volunteers, and is not a
document you would need to return to again and again.

>...
>  | Because the former is a one-time thing (once you have built Mozilla
>  | once, any problems you have building it later are likely to be too
>  | esoteric to be in the build instructions), but the latter is a
>  | reference which you may need to refresh yourself on every few
>  | months (or when you break the tree).
> 
> Thus the new contributor is sent scampering across top-level
> hierarchies to read up on contributing docs and general
> contribution guidelines.

Better that than that they can't find what they want at all.

> I'd like to suggest coherence as a quality of good categorization.

    Although they are nominally organised into a hierarchical
    management structure,this does not constrain the way people will
    communicate, and share information, equipment and software
    across groups ... The actual observed working structure of the
    organisation is a multiply connected "web" whose
    interconnections evolve with time.

                   -- <http://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html>

In other words, Don't Panic. This isn't a gopher site we're designing
here, it's a Web site. Links between sections *are* allowed.

>...
> If you look at the pages linked from the main NGLayout index,
> you can split them up into those documenting the layout engine--
> those detailing how it does what it does--and those explaining
> about the NGLayout project--e.g. its purpose, the people involved,
> how to get involved, what needs to be done, how to access the
> discussion areas, what is currently being done on the layout
> engine, frequently asked questions, etc.

Nothing wrong with that. The NGLayout section is probably one of the
best-organized sections on the mozilla.org site at the moment.

-- 
Matthew `mpt' Thomas, Mozilla user interface QA
Mozilla UI decisions made within 48 hours, or the next one is free

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