On 1/15/01 5:36 AM, in article 93ujrc$3k6$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This really sounds promising. I vote for Zope, because although PHP is
> beautiful, I haven't found any ready-to-go framework using PHP that
> solves so many of the same problems we have - and I have looked. I
> believe the Zope people have understood and solved the problems we have
> with our site. And here we're getting an offer from help by the makers
> of Zope, and they love Mozilla, and all of the synchronicity with
> Komodo/Zope-Mozilla. Hmmmmm .... tough choice :]
>
> Just to be level-headed, the one thing I can think of against Zope
> is ... do we have anyone currently involved in Mozilla that has ever
> played with Zope? I think with DC involved it would still be important
> to have another 2 contributors that have. The rest of us could learn it.
I agree. (Just as a reminder, I'm one of the Zope guys). Note that KDE and
GNOME both run their news sites with Zope and the Squishdot product.
They've never contacted us, so in theory you can run a site without our
help. :^)
> So, I have some questions:
> - What kinds of files sit in the main/sub directories of a typical Zope
> server?
Uh, nothing. :^) Zope use a hierarchical object database. The PATH_INFO in
the URL (e.g. /news/pr/20001208.html) tells Zope to open the 'news' object
(a folder), ask 'news' for "pr" (a folder), then ask 'pr' for
'20001208.html'.
Of course there are still files distributed with Zope, such as the software
itself and its various 'var' kinds of files. And there are bunches of
flavors on the above theme. Plus lots more to the architecture (such as
clustering.)
> - How many people need to be involved in getting an initial design
> going?
The fewer the better. :^)
> - Does a face-to-face meeting appeal to anyone?
We have a booth for Zope at Linux World Expo, and there's a big Moz meeting
just before the show. Perhaps that's a good time for a chat?
> - Has Zope solved the problem of having documents for web & for
> publishing to print?
We can spew DocBook which can then be converted to PDF. Later this year
we'll spew PDF directly.
> - How much time will it take to get something basic going that we can
> take over and run with?
One month.
> - What do the Zope people imagine our website could be like?
Fast and fun. :^) Of course if Moz did HTTP PUT like Composer did, then
we'd _really_ be talking.
> - When can we get started?
I'll leave this to others.
--Paul
