On 13.06.02 23:11, Jim Balter Replied As Follows:

--- Original Message ---

> On 6/13/02 6:15 PM, Steve Rudman wrote:
> 
>> I'm not suggesting that mozilla.org should not provide useful 
>> documentation (sorry for the double negative, can't think fast enough to 
>>  reword right now). I don't think mozilla.org is obligated to provide 
>> docs targeted towards end-users.
> 
> What's an "end user"?  

A consumer that purchases a "computer in a box" at CompUSA or similar
"end-user". Also, an end-user for purposes of definition insofar as
Mozilla is concerned applies to any "user" that is not a "developer". A
"developer" wears many hats, ie., programmer, tester, doc author, patch
writer, etc.

I wish people would stop throwing
> this term around as if it were actually a defined category
> of human beings.  mozilla.org is obligated to provide
> docs targeted toward dogfood consumers, just as it is
> obligated to provide browser functionality usable at that level.

No, they are not.

> And to a large degree there is no distinction between a dogfood
> consumer (i.e., a developer wearing a user hat) and any other
> sophisticated "end user".  Consider, for instance, Red Hat
> customers who are users of a Red Hat distribution of *Mozilla* --
> not Netscape, not Beonex, but Mozilla.  I think Red Hat would be
> rather perturbed to hear that mozilla.org is not obligated to
> provide docs targeted towards those users.  That's quite different
> from mozilla.org not being obligated to provide any sort of support
> to those or any other users.

Red Hat "is" obligated to provide documentation for *their* spin-off,
not Mozilla who provides the foundation.

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