"Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T." wrote:
>
> Gervase Markham wrote:
> >
> > > There are already a lot of bug reports in n.p.m.general . The idea is to make
> > > people choose the .bugs newsgroup instead, and when they post their message, they
> > > are redirected to the FAQ page that says something like "This newsgroup is not
> > > for bug reports. Use Bugzilla instead. ..."
> > > Since all existing posts to this group will contain the URL of the FAQ page, many
> > > people will already read that page before they compose their message.
> >
> > Cunning though this would be, my view is that it raises the barrier to
> > entry too high. I think that the other rearrangements we are making will
> > remove the number of bug reports in the dev newsgroups to tolerable
> > levels.
> >
> > A better innovation would be for someone to write a document explaining
> > about how we handle bug reports, and how to submit a good one, and how to
> > get involved with QA on Mozilla - and then mail the URL, with an
> > explantion, to everyone who posts a bug report. We might catch a few
> > volunteers that way.
> >
> > Gerv
>
> That's just making the system an Elitist system where only developers
> will can and report Locate Bugs.
He didn't say that.
>
> Developers being developers do not want to put a bug complaint against
> another developer. because If say I was a developer and I placed a bug
> report, and the developer of the part that had the bug found out; then
> the devoper with the buggy code would say well if it is not good enough
> I pull out my part and go home. And I will not work with that person
> ever again that submitted that report, on no project.
>
> So then there won't be Bugs (in the developers eyes) so it will never
> truely be a (an almost) bug free product.
This is just nonsense. Check your facts. Go the the bugzilla page
and do a query for all bugs reported by any given developer and
discover that lots of the people checking in code also file lots
of bug reports against themselves and against others. Filing bugs
is a normal part of the engineering process. Period.
>
> If you allow regular yahoo's like me to submit reports then the
> developer will say "hey even that dumb imbecile found a bug" on my
> project I must try to find out.
I didn't read a suggestion that folks be restricted from filing
bugs. Only that they be encouraged to file good reports in the
bug system as opposed to unstructured and misdirected complaints
in the newsgroups.
John.
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