Pratik wrote:
> JTK wrote:
> > Asa Dotzler wrote:
> >
> >>JTK wrote:
> >>
> >><snip>
> >>
> >>>I haven't yet had the energy to try to figure out Bugizilla, set up an
> >>>account, etc etc. It's a lot easier to bitch here in public instead of
> >>>behind closed doors.
> >>>
> >>You don't have the energy to type your email address into a form and
> >>wait a minute or so for Bugzilla to email you a password? You don't have
> >>the energy to type your problem into a form that might actually lead to
> >>a fix?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No, I don't.
> >
> >
> >>And what about Bugzilla isn't public.
> >>
> >
> > Its obscurity. You know of course I'm not the only one who doesn't have
> > much desire to figure out how to use the thing.
>
> First of all obscurity does not mean that its not public. As pointed out
> there are 15000 people who are regular users of bugzilla, not to mention
> that even redhat uses it (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/). Start
> using it and I'm sure it won't take you long. I see that you argue about
> the merits/demerits of strcpy, PL_strcpy, copy_string, etc, you
> critisize on teh usage of cvs, cygwin, cmd, etc. How much do you think
> someone like you would take to figure out bugzilla? Not much, in my opinion.
>
> However if your main reason to not use bugzilla is because you don't
> want to give an email address, then thats a totally different thing.
>
> >
> >>You don't even need a login to
> >>read bugs.
> >>
> >
> > Well reading about bugs that I already know about seems rather
> > pointless, doesn't it?
>
> The point is to see if the bugs you notice are already in bugzilla and
> to log them if they are not. The point is to follow the progress of bugs
> you're interested and to bug the bug-owners if they are neglecting
> something that you think is important. The point is to contribute and
> offer your opinions in a constructive way.
>
> >
> >>There are over 30,000 Bugzilla account holders, about 15,000
> >>people active in reporting or commenting in bugs, the database queryable
> >>and reports are readable on the web. What about your filing a bug in
> >>Bugzilla wouddn't be "in public" and how is your comment here any more
> >>public.
> >>
> >
> > If a tree falls in the woods, does anybody give a damn?
>
> ???
>
> >
> >>I'd argue that a webpage is as public or more public than a
> >>newsgroup posting.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > "A" webpage maybe. The particular one in question, no way.
>
> I disagree...but thats me.
>
> - Pratik.
Opera uses Bugzilla as well, however, only internally and not open to
the general public.
Gus