>>>You just described 90% of open source software. Is that not end-user
>>>software also?
>>>
>>No. The e.g. version packaged (and, often, patched) by Red Hat for which
>>people pay $39.95 is end user software.
>
> But what about all the OS software we don't pay for? (AAMOF I get RH for
> free also through download)
Maybe this is a confusion about the term "end-user software". When I say
"Mozilla is not end-user software", what I mean is:
- It's not supported in any way
- No, really. It's not supported
- No part of it is guaranteed to work
- It may crash regularly
- It may corrupt your data
- It may molest your cat
- It may mail your tax evasion schemes to the IRS.
Would you call a bit of software which fulfils the critera above
"suitable for end-users"?
Gerv
> No. I'm saying your argument makes absolutly no sense. If you need it
> explained...
>
> Terrorists came into our land and commited a terrible act. There is no
> excuse for flying a plane into a building full of innocent civilians.
> This is cause for a reaction from the US.
Absolutely.
> There is hunger and starvation around the world. Although that's sad,
> we did not cause it.
See my previous message as to why we are all at least accomplices. In
addition to the points I made there, it's true that the West's foreign
and trade policies have an amazing amount of effect around the world.
That effect is not always to the good.
> Not to mention that we're talking about two
> different sides recieving and causing the bad act. If you're comparing
> the two shouldn't the countries of the starving people, the victims, be
> declaring a war on us?
My point is that we are all citizens of the same world. "Terrorism"
isn't a country either, yet the US has declared war on it. "Drugs" is
another example. I see poverty as a common enemy for everyone - like
terrorism. A bad thing which kills people and should be fought.
> Assuming we caused that suffering. But your
> statement doesn't make sense because we didn't cause the problems, and
> _they_ are the victims, not us.
This is entirely the point, though, isn't it? If someone else is the
victim, we stop caring.
Gerv
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People killed in WTC tragedy (approx.): 5,000
People who die every day of starvation: 24,000
Each of those deaths is more preventable than one caused by a terrorist.
So when does the Western World declare war on hunger, disease and poverty?
