Gervase Markham wrote:
> 
> >>>You just described 90% of open source software.  Is that not end-user
> >>>software also?
> >>>
> >>No. The e.g. version packaged (and, often, patched) by Red Hat for which
> >>people pay $39.95 is end user software.
> >
> > But what about all the OS software we don't pay for? (AAMOF I get RH for
> > free also through download)
> 
> Maybe this is a confusion about the term "end-user software". When I say
> "Mozilla is not end-user software", what I mean is:
> 
> - It's not supported in any way
> - No, really. It's not supported
> - No part of it is guaranteed to work
> - It may crash regularly
> - It may corrupt your data
> - It may molest your cat
> - It may mail your tax evasion schemes to the IRS.
> 
> Would you call a bit of software which fulfils the critera above
> "suitable for end-users"?
> 

All open source software is like that.  No guarantees.  But it is
released as end-user software.

> 
> 
> > No.  I'm saying your argument makes absolutly no sense.  If you need it
> > explained...
> >
> > Terrorists came into our land and commited a terrible act.  There is no
> > excuse for flying a plane into a building full of innocent civilians.
> > This is cause for a reaction from the US.
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> 
> > There is hunger and starvation around the world.  Although that's sad,
> > we did not cause it.
> 
> See my previous message as to why we are all at least accomplices. In
> addition to the points I made there, it's true that the West's foreign
> and trade policies have an amazing amount of effect around the world.
> That effect is not always to the good.
> 
> > Not to mention that we're talking about two
> > different sides recieving and causing the bad act.  If you're comparing
> > the two shouldn't the countries of the starving people, the victims, be
> > declaring a war on us?
> 
> My point is that we are all citizens of the same world. "Terrorism"
> isn't a country either, yet the US has declared war on it. "Drugs" is
> another example. I see poverty as a common enemy for everyone - like
> terrorism. A bad thing which kills people and should be fought.
> 
> >  Assuming we caused that suffering.  But your
> > statement doesn't make sense because we didn't cause the problems, and
> > _they_ are the victims, not us.
> 
> This is entirely the point, though, isn't it? If someone else is the
> victim, we stop caring.
> 
> Gerv
> 
> --
> People killed in WTC tragedy (approx.):   5,000
> People who die every day of starvation:  24,000
> Each of those deaths is more preventable than one caused by a terrorist.
> So when does the Western World declare war on hunger, disease and poverty?

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