And it came to pass that Hall Stevenson wrote:
> * DeMoN LaG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010922 17:36]:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hall Stevenson) wrote in
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 22 Sep 2001:
>> >
>> > When you say 'people' I assume you mean geeks or nerds,
>> > right ?? They're the only ones who care about being
>> > compliant with standards. Ask your co-workers if they
>> > know what W3C standards or if they care what they are.
>> > They want a browser that *works*. They won't accept
>> > a browser that's slower than the one they're currently
>> > using. They won't accept one that doesn't work with their
>> > online banking when the 'other' browser does.
>>
>> His co-workers don't design web pages. If cnn.com, abc.com,
>> nbc.com, nhl.com, espn.com and cnet.com all started
>> designing pages that required a higher standards compliance
>> than MS is willing to produce,
>
> Web designers *won't*. They aren't going to try and convert
> users or convince users. They look at their webserver stats
> and decide who to optimize/design their site for. They do it
> for the majority...
But you're missing the point: IF you design to W3C standards,
it's STILL optimal for IE.
>
>> people *would* go find a browser that let them do all the
>> fun stuff. People use IE for 2 reasons: Been using it for a
>> while and have no reason to switch (IE, competition may be
>> just as good, but not better), or they don't even know they
>> have a choice
>
> You're right about that part about not knowing they have a
> choice. Their O/S comes with a web browser already
> installed. No need to go download something different. This
> pre-installed browser works for the majority of sites they
> visit. When it doesn't work right with a site, they think
> "that's a pretty messed-up website'. They don't notice or
> *care* about that little disclaimer about 'This website
> works best with mozilla and/or Netscape 6'.
A w3C compliant site won't show up better in Mozilla or Netscape
6 than IE 6 - it will show up exactly the same - properly coded
sites work for any browser. That's the whole point of creating
a standard.
The problem is NOT on the browser end - it's on the website
creation end, where MS products churn out sub-standard code.
And it IS sub-standard, not merely "different". But MS designs
its browser to overlook the flaws in the code produced by its
shoddy software.
It's as if they designed a word processor that leaves out all
the vowels in a document unless you use their printer to print
it.
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