"Simon P. Lucy" wrote:
> 
> On 02/12/2001 at 21:38 Christian Biesinger wrote:
> 
> >DeMoN LaG wrote:
> >
> >> You can technically format a drive to about 80% and then cancel it and
> >> not have a problem, as the drive's FAT is not written until the end, at
> >> which point data is unrecoverable.
> >
> >Data is not necessarily unrecoverable.
> >Firstly, only the FAT is overwritten, so the actual data is still on disk.
> >Secondly, there was an unformat command in MS-DOS. Unless you used
> >"format /u", you could undo the formatting.
> 
> The actual operation of the FORMAT command is/was up to the OEM shipping
> the OS, whilst most OEMs just shipped the standard FORMAT any OEM could and
> some did modify its behaviour.  Original releases of MS-DOS didn't even
> have a concept of hard disks as such, other than they didn't have the
> removeable bit set.
> 
> Other than that the Unix like extensions to MS-DOS came out with version 2,
> redirectable I/O with < and >, |, subdirectory paths (you could switch,
> still can I think, the path symbol from '\' to '/' by using the switch
> option in config.sys).  Microsoft had a posix set of tools tr,srt etc, etc
> from that time on, they were never really distributed though.
> 
> Simon
> >
> >--
> >Greetings to Echelon and the NSA:
> >president usa attack world trade center afghanistan terrorist terrorism
> >bioterrorism anthrax white house pentagon car bomb

when i was working Most PC Machines were some version of the Epson
Equity line (I, II, III), and Custom Built version called WINN. Unlike
the Epson Machines that were exactly alike in a version line (there were
differences between I version, II version, or III version), using
exactly the same Floppy Drives, Hard Drives, Power Supplies, Etc.; the
only thing common about the WIIN boxes were the outside case. Everything
was different, logic boards, video cards, Hard Drives, Floppy Drives,
CD-ROM drives (for those with them).

The Epson Equity I line used MS-DOS 2.x, the II line used MS-DOS 3.1.x,
the III line uses 3.3.x 

I don't remember using | but I do remember using the \ and /'s

I retired the summer after the first version of W-95 came out. We mostly
used Windows 3.1.1. at the four high schools were the only ones allowed
to try W-95. Am I remembering wrong but didn't the very first version of
W-95 actually come out in 93 or 94? I am asking not stating as fact. so
don't get wound up if I am wrong. Anyway it gives you an idea of how
long since I have looked at DOS. 

I used On-Track software to setup and initialize new Hard drives when I
had to replace Hard drives.

Everyone was using a utility called something like Drive Space or Double
Space that would let you hold 40megs of info on a 20 meg hard drive.
Using this utility though at the time, the hard drives tended to fail in
a short period of time and need replacing.

I was replacing Floppy or Hard drives in DOS/Windows machines about
every two to three weeks. 

On the Mac we had SE's mostly. I replaced on Hard drive and one power
Supply. Until we started using the LC line (pizzabox machines). Then we
had a run on any using Maxtor Hard drives. If Quantum Drives were used,
no problems.

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