Robert Pollak wrote:

> I filed http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114061 .


In a comment on that bug Boris Zbarsky claimed that this was a duplicate 
of an existing bug. (If so, this wouldn't surprise me in the least.) The 
Greg Kolanek document referenced below references a several bugs that 
appear to be related to this topic.


> Feel free to vote there, but please, as I say there:
>  > !Important: Any advocacy should be continued in the newsgroup!
>  > Use bugzilla only for *comments* *about* *technical* *problems* of 
> fixing this.


Yes. By this time everyone is familar with all the arguments about use 
of the star in Mozilla-related graphics. I personally agree that use of 
the star should be discontinued in the Mozilla binaries distributed 
through mozilla.org. (We can't control what anyone else does in their 
own Mozilla-based products.) I am also willing to help get this changed, 
using whatever influence I posess. I do _not_ need to read any more 
advocacy postings on this subject.

What we need now is actual work to produce alternative graphics that are 
technically suitable for the various Mozilla platforms, and consistent 
with other graphics used in the context of the Mozilla project. We also 
need some work to straighten out the legal issues around the various 
Mozilla images and how they are used in the context of Mozilla 
distributions. (This latter task is one for mozilla.org staff, and is 
not necessarily straightforward -- which is one reason there's been no 
total overhaul of the Mozilla icons and images yet.)


> By the way, I would propose the blue gecko of the windows icons or the 
> mozilla-'m' in order to avoid any red/green lizard color problems ;)


IMO we should _not_ use the blue gecko currently used on the Windows 
distributions of Mozilla -- that image was originally used by Netscape 
in the context of their "Netscape Gecko" product (basically a 
Netscape-branded version of the Mozilla Gecko layout engine), and I 
believe may have even been registered as a Netscape trademark. (The US 
Patent and Trademark database shows a filing with serial number 75605466 
which may related to this.) Hence IMO the blue gecko should not be used 
in any software distributed by mozilla.org.

IMO the Mozila desktop icon on all platforms should be the red dinosaur 
head by itself (i.e., no star) -- basically a larger version of the 
graphic that is now used with the mozilla.org site and the "favicon" 
feature. Note that such a desktop icon is included in the version of 
Mozilla distributed with Red Hat Linux 7.2, and I believe with the Linux 
version distributed through mozilla.org (I haven't double-checked this); 
you can see a copy of this icon at

http://www.hecker.org/mozilla/mozilla-icon.png

IMO the Mozilla "about:" box should also use the red dinosaur head by 
itself (again, no star), in a graphic of suitable size (maybe 200x200 
pixels?).


> And I thougt I bring this to your attention:
> http://greg.tcp.com/mozilla/ui/Outside/introduction.html

This is a good discussion of the basic issues around icons in Mozilla.

Frank

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Frank Hecker
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