No this has not change. And its not because of Netscape that this is so.
If someone is interested in starting a moz for enduser project, I'm
sure no one will object.
basic
Holger Metzger wrote:
> Colin Thefleau schrieb:
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>>Jay Garcia wrote:
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>>>Chris Lee wrote:
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>>>>I am an end user and I use Mozilla, this makes it an end user product.
>>>>It may not have been the intention to provide an end user product, but
>>>>when the mozilla builds work better than the 'customizers' versions
>>>>end users go to the better product.
>>>>Without endusers usiong it the end user perspective will never make it
>>>>back to the Mozilla project and user-unfriendly 'buggs' will remain
>>>>such as the mail Icon, if a user-unfriendly product is what the
>>>>Mozilla team is after then I dont think it would have got this far.
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>>>>Holger Metzger wrote:
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>>>>>Jacek Piskozub schrieb:
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>>>>>>We lobby for thet since this winter. There was a string of bugs
>>>>>>about that closed without a real fix (the means for inserting the
>>>>>>icons were added but not the icons). No luck in coosing a set of
>>>>>>icons so far. It is not easy to say what the real reason is.
>>>>>>Probably some conflicts among Mozilla old timers (maybe we stepped
>>>>>>on someone's toes?).
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>>>>>Might it be because Mozilla will never be a "enduser" product? So
>>>>>providing icons is totally up to customizers like Netscape? The Netscape
>>>>>6.1 icons surely look nice.
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>>>>>Holger
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>>>No, it is NOT an end-user product.
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>>>The fact that Mozilla is "open source" simply means that the Mozilla
>>>team has left the door to the office OPEN so you can come in and have a
>>>look. By comparison, the Netscape 6 door is closed and you only get to
>>>see the product when they open the door and toss out a package for you
>>>to open and use what's inside.
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>>Sorry I don't agree with that. Lot of Linux distribution do or will
>>include Mozilla as standard browser. Now already a lot of "end users"
>>that have no idea about programming use Mozilla (like me). Actually
>>Mozilla is really close from a nice "end user" version, only missing a
>>spell checker, a few icons and some polishing and less bugs. And voil�
>>you have a GREAT end user software that can have a lot of success in the
>>long run.
>>Now if Netscape is not happy with that and delibaretly tries to NOT make
>>Mozilla an end user product (like to disable compatibility with the
>>spell checker) this is sad.
>>To gain success and popularity Morilla have to be an end user browser
>>and Netscape should be proud of it.
>>
>>Ciao
>>Colin
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> But as I understand it Mozilla was never intended to be an enduser
> product in the first place. Netscape, IBM or Neoplanet provide the
> enduser product based on Mozilla. Has this changed?
>
> Holger
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