i think microsoft should call it HTTP mail
it's confusing

mail = open starndard like pop3, smtp, imap
HTTP = is the web w3.org
but HTTP + mail = microsoft proprietary protocol?


Ben Bucksch wrote:

> All,
> 
> what he means is that Mozilla Mailnews should be able to retrieve mail 
> from Hotmail.
> 
> I think, he doesn't realize that Microsoft owns Hotmail. Microsoft 
> decided to oppose open-source, so if we try to support Hotmail via HTTP, 
> they will just change the webpage all the time so that our parser (which 
> gets the mail out of the webpage etc.) breaks. Also, Hotmail uses MS 
> Passport, and we're likely to encounter problems there, too.
> 
> Do you know that Netscape 6 Mail supports webmail accounts from 
> webmail.netscape.com, just like OE supports Hotmail?
> 
> Chris Lee wrote:
> 
>> I personaly think mozilla should step out of the protocol issue, and 
>> use  protocols for waht they were intended
> 
> 
> I agree. Which, for me, means that we do not support webmail in 
> Mailnews. There are enough freemail / webmail accounts offering POP or 
> even IMAP access.
> 
> If you really want to use hotmail, use a standalone server on your 
> system, which translates between the hotmal webpages and POP, just like 
> Michael Klose reports.
> 
>> In mozilla terms you have a UI and mail handler but the protocols used 
>> to deliver and receive mail are abstracted so that if you have a 
>> server that gives you mail via http so be it its just a new 'language' 
>> plug in.
>> After all mail is mail no matter how you got or sent it. 
> 
> 
> Apart from the fact that Mozilla Mailnews is already designed the way 
> you describe - after all, it  supports POP, IMAP, news, Unix mailboxes, 
> AOL mail (proprietary) and Netscape Webmail (proprietary). The protocols 
> *are* already "pluggable".
> 
> But what you say here seems to be the exact opposite of what you say above.
> 
> Ben Bucksch
> 
> 



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