In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Garth Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Because they're public groups. Mozilla is open source...anyone who wants 
> to can participate in the project.

Still, it is misleading to call them public if you don't want 
non-developers to post. (The php.*, gnu.* etc. newsgroups don't seem to 
need "public" to indicate that they are accessible by anyone.)

> http://www.mozilla.org.uk/newsgroups.txt
> 
> Once this change goes through, thw whole debate will be irrelevant 
> because the purpose of each group (developer, web-developer, end-user, 
> etc.) will be obvious, and these current groups will go away. 
> Unfortunately, we're still waiting for this to happen--it's taking an 
> inordinately long time.

Indeed. But the failure to implement the reorg is still the problem and 
it is not the fault of the well-intentioned end users who typed 
"*mozilla*" in Googles group search field and got back 
netscape.public.mozilla.general as the only relevant group.

> What does their ISP have to do with anything?

If you check the headers of this message, you'll notice that I'm posting 
using a Finnish server (whose address was in the my ISP's docs). For me 
the access speed is much better than with news.mozilla.org.

> The Mozilla project's product is the Mozilla codebase, which is provided 
> for distributors to customize and repackage for end-users. The binaries 
> that Mozilla provides are made available for the purpose of testing and 
> development (yes, even the 1.0 milestone build).

But it's quite counter-productive to fragment the end user discussion by 
insisting that Netscape users go to one place, Beonex users to another, 
Debian users to a third, Red Hat users to a fourth, etc.

-- 
Henri Sivonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/

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