In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Garth Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Henri Sivonen wrote:

> > Still, it is misleading to call them public if you don't want 
> > non-developers to post. (The php.*, gnu.* etc. newsgroups don't seem to 
> > need "public" to indicate that they are accessible by anyone.)
> 
> It's a netscape.* hierarchy convention. I think it's silly too, but 
> there you have it.

It would make more sense to fix it than to try to explain it.

> > Indeed. But the failure to implement the reorg is still the problem and 
> > it is not the fault of the well-intentioned end users who typed 
> > "*mozilla*" in Googles group search field and got back 
> > netscape.public.mozilla.general as the only relevant group.
> 
> No, it's not their fault, but they're still doing the wrong thing. It's 
> called a "mistake".

So if you put a welcome sign at a door but in the back yard have 
instructions that one should not enter through the door but climb 
through a side window, the people who naively walk through the door are 
making a mistake.
 
> You can use secnews.netscape.com without changing your ISP. I don't know 
> why you think you can't...

It is slower than using the ISP NNTP server and in many cases it 
requires a different client or a different client configuration.

> > But it's quite counter-productive to fragment the end user discussion by 
> > insisting that Netscape users go to one place, Beonex users to another, 
> > Debian users to a third, Red Hat users to a fourth, etc.
> 
> Where did I say that?

You didn't say so, but it is a common suggestiong that tends to occur 
when this discussion is reiterated.

-- 
Henri Sivonen
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http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/

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