Brian Heinrich wrote:

> On 28 Jul 2002, it is alleged that Steven sauntered in to 
> netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news and loudly proclaimed:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm having problems with Netscape/Mozilla mail viewing and composing.
>> When I open a news post or message that has one ore more levels of
>> quotes it often looks like Netsacpe/Mozilla tries to wrap the quoted text.
> 
> 
> Well, yes.  What it looks like is that one or more or your 
> correspondents is using OE; Moz seems to be picking up the badly-quoted 
> text generated by OE.  (NC 4.x seems to have similar problems.)


I don't understand this. The message looks good in Google but is mangled in
Netscape/Mozilla. Why?


>> When respond to a message the message composer inserts extra lines
>> between paragraphs. This also happens when I copy and paste a word
>> or a phrase in the composer, an extra line is added. Is this how it should
>> work or is something wrong with my settings? It's pretty annoying!
> 
> 
> I'm not quite sure what you mean here.  But I'm replying to this using 
> Xnews right now, so I can't actually check.


Often (but not always) when I copy a single word from one position in a 
line to
another position in the same line (or another for that matter) two 
returns are
inserted before the word, making it the first word of a new paragraph...


>> When I save a draft of a message I am composing and reopen it later or
>> if I "edit as new" an existing message there is also extra lines between
>> the paragraphs and spaces before every quoted line. The message loses
>> the gray "quote marker line" before quoted text which is replaced with
>> "greater than" quote signs.
> 
> 
> The grey bar is a display characteristic; you won't see it if you're 
> replying to or editing a plain-text message, tho' you will see it with 
> HTML mail.


I understand that. But the gray bar is also replaced once the message is
posted and viewed in the group or from the inbox.


>> Also, I have set text wrap to 72 characters but if I don't insert returns
>> manually the text is not wrapped.
> 
> 
> Text wrap is there for newsreaders (such as this one) that don't support 
> format=flowed.


You mean Xnews? I insert returns manually when I compose messages in
Netscape. If I don't do this often I get one line of text and a horizontal
scrollbar in the message composer. Sometimes it wraps at some point.


>> Here's some screenshots that illustrate what happens:
>> http://www.sifre.demon.nl/test/message_mess.html
>>
>> Can anybody explain how al this should work and how best to fix it or
>> how to use it? As it is I find it all very unfriendly:-(
> 
> 
> Come, now, it's not /that/ bad, is it?


It is terrible! Composing a message in Netscape 4 is much more
straight forward and predictable. I often wonder why I don't go back to
version 4 just for the mail client:-(



> Tell you what:  Post to one of the user fora listed below (the n.p.m.* 
> groups are actually for developer discussion) and we'll see if we can't 
> get you straightened away. . . .


I've posted it to netscape.mozilla.user.general


Steven


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