On 07/09/2002 22:47 A strange alien lifeform, Joao Rodrigues, reared up
on its hind legs and bellowed:

> Parish <parish_AT_ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
>> If Moz/NS is to gain a sizeable market share (which it needs to if web
>> developers are going to start making sure their sites work with Moz/NS)
>> then we need several million JAPCUs, most of whom will be Windows (and
>> therefore IE) users, to adopt Moz/NS.
> 
> Mozilla browser is already very good. I can't find any important bugs there.
> But Mail & News is FULL of them! I feel embarassed in saying bad things 
> about Outlook to people because they are going to ask me "What alternative 
> do you suggest?". Most of the time, I suggest Eudora (in Windows) or 
> KMail/KNode (in Linux). That's because Mozilla Mail & News is so full of 
> in-your-face bugs that any JAPCU would notice them.
> 

Which is why I posted my original message; Three (OK, two really) 
in-your-face bugs have just been fixed. A step forward I'd say.

> There are a few annoying ones: whenever I want to send an Email or News 
> post, I click on 'Send Later' just to read it once again and see if the 
> formatting is ok. Mozilla puts the message in 'Unsent Messages' folder.
> But, if it's a text message, the message is stored in 'Unsent Messages' in a 
> non-wrapped format, instead of the 72 (default value) characters width set 
> in the Preferences. When it is sent, Mozilla wraps the text. But it is 
> stored in the 'Sent' folder unwrapped.
> 
> And when I click on 'Send Unsent Messages', there is almost no visual 
> feedback that some processing is being done (bug #102919) and the message 
> is cleared from the message list pane but NOT from message body pane.
> 
> And not to mention the fact that Password manager when used with news 
> servers that require authentication stores the username/password for *each* 
> newsgroup, instead of the more reasonable news server wide. This makes 
> users have to type their username/password for *every* group they want to 
> see. This is bug #36816 and it hasn't been solved for over 2 years.
> 
> And what about ICQ for Windows which doesn't get the URL of the page being 
> shown in the active browser windows like Netscape (4) and IE does? This 
> must happen with any program that needs to know the URL of the active 
> browser window. Considering the popularity of ICQ, this is an in-your-face 
> bug. This is bug #31343 and it hasn't been solved since March 2000!
> 
> A dialog box or a window like 'Preferences' should open up centered on 
> screen or, at least, centered relatively to it's parent window. But Mozilla 
> opens windows usually near the top left corner. This looks so sloppy! 
> Urghh..
> 
> And one could mention hundreds of little in-your-face bugs like these ones. 
> Netscape 4.79 Mail & News is much more robust than Mozilla's. And it 
> shouldn't be, because Netscape's 4 development was halted in 1998. From 
> 1994 to 1998 they have made a better Mail/News reader than Mozilla from 
> 1998 to 2002. Probably, Mozilla project has fewer engineers assigned to Mail 
> & News.
> 
> 
> Joao


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