On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:29:48, Felix Miata 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> opined:

> Stan Goodman wrote:
> 
> > Dimitris 'sehh' Michelinakis wrote:
> 
> > > If i'm not mistaken its about killing the natives and taking their land.
>  
> > No, it's about having survived the first winter in Massachusetts, in a
> > climate much more severe than that of England.
> 
> Seems like a bogus reason for celebrating to me. Winter is just about to
> start & they're celebrating surviving a winter that ended 8 months
> before? Prolly they were celebrating surviving the first full year, one
> that started with a brutal winter.

It's quite logical. They had made it through the winter, succeeded in 
planting crops, including unfamiliar ones, in an unfamiliar climate 
and with unfamiliar methods, half the original 102 had died in the 
process, and they had a good harvest assuring an easier subsequent 
winter. They had a lot to be thankful for.

But the point here is that the holiday was not instituted as a 
celebration of "killing the natives and taking their land", which is 
offensive.

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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