On Fri, 17 May 2002 05:27:14 GMT "William L. Hartzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Hi Bill.  Yes, admit to having 32-bit TCPIP with my OS2 Warp3
>  > Connect.  As to long file names I do have Henk Kelder�s FAT32 enabler
>  > installed, and my problems in this respect stopped when I put Mozilla
>  > on a FAT32 drive.  As to Java I have yet to discover any problems
>  > with using Java 1.1.8.  Could you suggest an URL that I could test?
>
> Though I believe IBM when they say that Mozilla will not run with Java
> 1.1.8, I not tested their assertion.  You need to ask Mikus for test
> sites where Java 1.1.8 won't work using Mozilla.

Disclaimer:  I am not paid to test Java, nor to test browsers.
             So I do *not* have a test suite to wring them out with.

Before talking about __testing__, let's talk about function:

 -  Language:

    Once upon a time, Java-language executables were encapsulated
    within <APPLET> HTML tags.  IBM's Java 1.1.8 can handle <APPLET>.

    Then the language itself changed.  Now, Java-language executables
    are supposed to be encapsulated within <EMBED> HTML tags.  IBM's
    Java 1.3 and 1.3.1 can handle <EMBED>.

    IBM's Java 1.1.8 does not handle <EMBED>.  How does one __test__
    that something is not handled ?   I have no idea.

 -  Browser to Java Virtual Machine Interface:

    To the best of my knowledge, the only way browsers get to IBM's Java
    1.1.8 with an <APPLET> is through a "custom" interface.  Netscape
    provides such an interface.  (That is why in Netscape preferences
    one needs to specify the "IBM Java Properties", particularly the
    path to the 1.1.8 javai.dll)

    To the best of my knowledge, the only way browsers get to IBM's Java
    1.3 and 1.3.1 with an <EMBED> [*or* with an <APPLET>] is through
    the __plugin__.  Note that the plugin (to get to 1.3 and 1.3.1)
    for Netscape is npjava.dll [it passes <EMBED> - remember,
    <APPLET> gets passed through a "custom" interface to 1.1.8].
    The plugin (to get to 1.3 and 1.3.1) for Mozilla is npoji6.dll
    [it passes <EMBED> and supposedly <APPLET> as well].

    To the best of my knowledge, IBM's Java 1.1.8 does not support
    the plugin interface.  How does one __test__ that something is
    not supported ?   I have no idea.


As I said above, I have no idea how to __test__ that "Java 1.1.8 won't
work using Mozilla".  All I know is that it is not *supposed* to work.
I do not have any URLs to suggest.


Sun has a whole bunch of demos, but they revised their site so the
URLs I had are no longer correct.  I believe that if you go to
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/relnotes/demos.html there will be
pointers to quite a few <EMBED> Java thingies.

And an interactive Java <APPLET> which is simple is
http://www.cut-the-knot.com/pythagoras/morey.html

mikus


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