Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2002 05:27:14 GMT "William L. Hartzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> > Hi Bill.  Yes, admit to having 32-bit TCPIP with my OS2 Warp3
>> > Connect.  As to long file names I do have Henk Kelder�s FAT32 enabler
>> > installed, and my problems in this respect stopped when I put Mozilla
>> > on a FAT32 drive.  As to Java I have yet to discover any problems
>> > with using Java 1.1.8.  Could you suggest an URL that I could test?
>>
>>Though I believe IBM when they say that Mozilla will not run with Java
>>1.1.8, I not tested their assertion.  You need to ask Mikus for test
>>sites where Java 1.1.8 won't work using Mozilla.
> 
> 
> Disclaimer:  I am not paid to test Java, nor to test browsers.
>              So I do *not* have a test suite to wring them out with.
> 
> Before talking about __testing__, let's talk about function:
> 
>  -  Language:
> 
>     Once upon a time, Java-language executables were encapsulated
>     within <APPLET> HTML tags.  IBM's Java 1.1.8 can handle <APPLET>.
> 
>     Then the language itself changed.  Now, Java-language executables
>     are supposed to be encapsulated within <EMBED> HTML tags.  IBM's
>     Java 1.3 and 1.3.1 can handle <EMBED>.
> 
>     IBM's Java 1.1.8 does not handle <EMBED>.  How does one __test__
>     that something is not handled ?   I have no idea.
> 
>  -  Browser to Java Virtual Machine Interface:
> 
>     To the best of my knowledge, the only way browsers get to IBM's Java
>     1.1.8 with an <APPLET> is through a "custom" interface.  Netscape
>     provides such an interface.  (That is why in Netscape preferences
>     one needs to specify the "IBM Java Properties", particularly the
>     path to the 1.1.8 javai.dll)
> 
>     To the best of my knowledge, the only way browsers get to IBM's Java
>     1.3 and 1.3.1 with an <EMBED> [*or* with an <APPLET>] is through
>     the __plugin__.  Note that the plugin (to get to 1.3 and 1.3.1)
>     for Netscape is npjava.dll [it passes <EMBED> - remember,
>     <APPLET> gets passed through a "custom" interface to 1.1.8].
>     The plugin (to get to 1.3 and 1.3.1) for Mozilla is npoji6.dll
>     [it passes <EMBED> and supposedly <APPLET> as well].
> 
>     To the best of my knowledge, IBM's Java 1.1.8 does not support
>     the plugin interface.  How does one __test__ that something is
>     not supported ?   I have no idea.
> 
> 
> As I said above, I have no idea how to __test__ that "Java 1.1.8 won't
> work using Mozilla".  All I know is that it is not *supposed* to work.
> I do not have any URLs to suggest.
> 
> 
> Sun has a whole bunch of demos, but they revised their site so the
> URLs I had are no longer correct.  I believe that if you go to
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/relnotes/demos.html there will be
> pointers to quite a few <EMBED> Java thingies.
> 
> And an interactive Java <APPLET> which is simple is
> http://www.cut-the-knot.com/pythagoras/morey.html
> 

See you know more than you let us see.
-- 
Bill
<Memorial Day is May 27th>


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