In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "German Bauer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After talking to many folks inside and outside Mozilla, some of us got 
> together to discuss ways of how to make the Mozilla User Experience 
> Design Process more efficient, more open and more engaging. I have 
> collected these thoughts and wrote them up as a proposal.
> 
> The proposal is posted at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ui/process/
> This is a rough draft, but if we can agree on the basic principles, I am
>  ready to do what I can to help implement this.
> 
> I would love to hear feedback, please post it to the 
> netscape.public.mozilla.ui newsgroup, so that all interested folks can 
> benefit. Thanks

It's nice to see this getting discussed, but it's apparent that we're a
long way from where we need to be.

"Meetings are called as needed and are open to the UI lead from the 
Mozilla community. The UI lead is responsible for bringing Mozilla 
specific issues to the table."

How nice of Netscape to allow a mozilla.org representative into the
meetings where it decides what Mozilla will look like.

"The final decision on a particular design is made by group consensus."

The document does not address what happens when there's a failure to
reach consensus. In that case, resolution should be in the hands of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"We currently have commercial builds as well as Mozilla builds, both 
serve different goals and a different customer sets."

"We" have commercial builds???

German, why is this document posted on the mozilla.org Web site? This is
a Netscape document about *Netscape's* process. If it aims to be a
proposal for mozilla.org process, I think it needs to be rethought and
rewritten from the mozilla.org viewpoint.

Braden

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