ravi narayan wrote:
> John Dobbins wrote:
>
> > Daniel Veditz wrote:
> >
> >> The socialist-realism style became trendy for a while, particularly in San
> >> Francisco where some of the founding mozilla.org members lived. I think I'm
> >> too old to get it, but I suppose pissing off the oldsters is always part of
> >> the point in the hip scene.
> >
> > Yes, pissing off the oldsters was fun, but when you get to be an old fart, it's
> > even more fun pissing off the kiddies by laughing at thier attempts to piss you
> > off.
> >
>
> these are uncalled for ad hominem attacks on the folks who spend
> their time developing mozilla, the code and the art that goes with
> it, especially since it seems to be a largely democratic project
> with input taken from all.
There has been a lot of input regarding the art style, and it has been either ignored
or brushed off as not "getting it"
> it takes more than being hip or trendy
> to diligently turn out an excellent free software product. rather
> than call them "kiddies" etc, why not produce alternate graphics
> that is to your preference and send us all a link? (perhaps you
> are already involved in the mozilla project, in which case its all
> the more surprising to see you discuss, not the merits/demerits of
> the graphics, but the motivation of other people in the project).
>
> --ravi
Simple,
The topic of the Neo-soviet graphics and the red Mozilla have come up many times.
Members of the inner circle of Mozilla.org has shown that they refuse to consider
changing either the graphics or the lizard, despite the wishes of many members of the
community. There are people who find the Commie graphics VERY offensive, yet we have
a group that refuses to even consider an alternitive. The Use of symbols that many
find offensive shows a lack of maturity, and if you act in an immature manner then
you have no one to blame but yourself when others point this out.
I have better things to do with my time than to create graphics that will be
ignored, and they will be ignored as long some people refuse to admit that the Commie
graphics are offensive, and including them was as big a mistake as having Nazi
graphics would have been.
The Graphics ape the art style of the USSR during the Stalinist era, and Stalin
murdered more people than Hitler, so I could even argue that the Neo-soviet art is
worse than Neo-nazi art would be.
Mozilla's graphics should be neutral, not something that leads people to compare
mozilla.org to one of the most barbaric governments this planet has ever seen, though
given the fact that mozilla's politburo has refused to consider a change, the style
may in fact show the nature of the project.
John
