John Dobbins wrote:
>
> ravi narayan wrote:
[snip]
> > it takes more than being hip or trendy
> > to diligently turn out an excellent free software product. rather
> > than call them "kiddies" etc, why not produce alternate graphics
> > that is to your preference and send us all a link? (perhaps you
> > are already involved in the mozilla project, in which case its all
> > the more surprising to see you discuss, not the merits/demerits of
> > the graphics, but the motivation of other people in the project).
> >
> > --ravi
>
> Simple,
> The topic of the Neo-soviet graphics and the red Mozilla have come up many times.
> Members of the inner circle of Mozilla.org has shown that they refuse to consider
> changing either the graphics or the lizard, despite the wishes of many members of the
> community.
What's probably the most pathetically hilarious about the whole issue is
that the People's Republic Of Mozilla refuse to go back to the green
lizard because of its connection with Netscape, yet won't cut the commie
graphics loose even though they have a blatant and inarguable connection
to communism. So we are forced to conclude that Chairman Maozilla*
considers Netscape Inc. to be worse than communism!
*I'm sweet. ;-)
> There are people who find the Commie graphics VERY offensive,
And others who simply find them stupid.
> yet we have
> a group that refuses to even consider an alternitive. The Use of symbols that many
> find offensive shows a lack of maturity, and if you act in an immature manner then
> you have no one to blame but yourself when others point this out.
>
Or when your project is a complete failure. On that note, anyone
checked the latest usage figures for Mozilla? And compared them to
those of the IE 6.0 preview?
> I have better things to do with my time than to create graphics that will be
> ignored, and they will be ignored as long some people refuse to admit that the Commie
> graphics are offensive, and including them was as big a mistake as having Nazi
> graphics would have been.
>
> The Graphics ape the art style of the USSR during the Stalinist era, and Stalin
> murdered more people than Hitler, so I could even argue that the Neo-soviet art is
> worse than Neo-nazi art would be.
>
They use the now-Chinese commie star as well, so I suspect Mozilla won't
be getting a lot of Falun Gong or US Navy users.
> Mozilla's graphics should be neutral, not something that leads people to compare
> mozilla.org to one of the most barbaric governments this planet has ever seen, though
> given the fact that mozilla's politburo has refused to consider a change, the style
> may in fact show the nature of the project.
>
Hear hear.
> John
