You seem to miss the purpose of Mozilla - as others have repeatedly
pointed out in the newsgroups and Mozillazine,
Mozilla's target user is NOT your grandpa. It is targetted as being the
basis of other projects
(Netscape, Galeon, Kmeloen, Komodo etc.)
which are then targetted for the end users. I think Kmeleon and Galeon
are already doing a pretty good
job in creating browsers that fit in to the user's environment (GNOME or
Windows) and are quite fast
for startup and new window creation (the two performance areas Mozilla
is blamed the most). I would venture
that pretty soon after Mozilla 1.0 comes out, both Galeon and Kmeloen
will also have their own 1.0 versions.
So, if what your grandpa cares most is startup speed/UI speed, have him
use another Mozilla-based
browser with a native widget. If you want all the features of Mozilla
(including XUL) an integrated browser,
e-mail, IM etc, you would use Netscape. If you're a techie (like most of
us here), we'll probably just continue
using the latest Mozilla nightlies or milestones. The point is that
Mozilla is not going to be just one product - you
will see many products based off it that each have their own strenghts
and weaknesses and you get to choose
what you want (or, if you don't like any, you can stick with IE - that
is your choice too!)
As for Mozilla startup/UI speed, Mozilla is getting better but it is
pretty much obvious that, in slower
machines, it will never be as fast as Netscape 4.x. And, in Windows, it
probably won't ever be as fast as IE.
In reasonably fast machines (I have P3 600 MHZ 256 MB RAM), the UI /page
loading speeds between IE
and Mozilla is pretty negligible (yes, IE is faster but the difference
is slim). As for startup, IE is considerably faster
but if that really matters, you can always run Mozilla in turbo mode,
which is sort of what IE is doing without telling
you (and no, I don't use turbo mode because I don't mind waiting 7
seconds for it to start up)
Anyway, my point is that Mozilla is not targetted for everyone, but
because of its modularity we will see lots of
applications (including browsers) written based on it that will target
various kinds of users. Requiring Mozilla to support
all the new standards, and work in multiple operating systems, and have
a full browser/email suite, and be faster than IE or
Netscape 4.x in low end machines, and never crash, and startup within 1
seconds, and have a perfect interface,
and do all this before 1.0 is an impossible goal.
Maybe we should take a lesson from Microsoft. When they make a new
product to compete against someone else,
their 1.0 version is usually never as good as the competitors. But they
keep on working on it (well, OK, some
times they use their monopoly power to get an edge), and making it
better with each release. So, Mozilla 1.0 should be
good enough, not perfect. There is 2.0, then 3.0 to try to perfect it.
Rajendra
illion wrote:
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> I�d sya noone in this newsgroup is the person to judge that.
> Since there are mostly techies here.
>
> If you would introduce Mozilla and IE 5 to an old let�s say
> grandpa. I can tell you mozilla would not win.
>
> My feeling is that mostly the tekkies find mozilla good
> and make claims that it is the best browser, and that
> they have been using it for a year and so on.
>
> From my untechnical end-user point of view, mozilla is with
> 0.9.2 a early beta product. Please take your time and make it
> right and BETTER FASTER than IE and OPERA otherwise why release it ?
>
> Why would anyone release a product if it has no advatages over the
> competition. Standards is no end-user thing.
>
>
