> > 1)  Leonid\\\'s fix 
> > 
> > Twinkling artifacts don\\\'t gone, but sound a little bit different.
> > 
> > Some time ago I tried -Y option and it produced sometimes really bad
> > twinkling.  With Leonid\\\'s fix -Y option significantly reduces
> > artifacts, but only when used with -X1.
> > 
> > Resume: I think Leonid\\\'s fix is right and with -Y -X1 it produces
> > nice results (sometimes I got better results than Fraunhoffer).
> > 
> 
> I finally got my sound card working and tried out main_theme.wav 
> tonight.  I was also disapointed that Leonid\'s fix didn\'t remove
> that artificial twinkling that pans from right to left.  I haven\'t
> tried any of the other options, but the -Y option (in some form or another)
> should eventually help.  It lets LAME try out different values
> of the scalefactor multiplier.
> 


I think -Y option should be default on. My additional tests show that it never 
decreases quality (after Leonid\'s fix) but increases it often.


> > 3) Decoders - I tried winamp2.5, MS Media Player and mpg123
> >     0.59q. Each decoder sounded another way (and produces another kind
> >     of artifacts). Winamp is buggy/broken (I\\\'m sure about it, with
> >     joe sat. it produces artifacts in left channel regardless I tried
> >     to swap chanels in original wav and reencoded it - again artifacts
> >     in left channel). Best results I get with mpg123 but I can\\\'t
> >     listen under Linux (damned Li(v || f)e!).
> > 
> 
> Why doesn\'t mpg123 work under Linux?  You could also try xmms - I think
> it was originaly based on mpg123.  
> 

mpg123 works fine under Linux, but I can\'t listen - I can only decode to wav and 
switch to windoze. Damned Creative Labs, there are no working drivers for SB Live! for 
latest kernel.

> 
> 20 is not so bad: 10*log10(20)=13db, so it lowers the ATH normalization
> by 13db.  The uncertainty in if we should use max_energy or ave_energy 
> for the normalization is already +/- 5db.  I will make this the default
> in the next version.  
> 

In case you didn\'t noticed:

at 1999-09-16 Robert wrote:

> I don\'t know if you know Bosse Lincolns Paper:
> \"An Experimental High Fidelity Perceptual Audio Coder
> Project in MUS420 Win 97\"

> There you can read, that after some listening tests the \"setting
> didn\'t seem to keep high enough frequencies for transient sounds\".
> And it\'s supposed to replace the MDCT scaling in ATHformula
> ath-=96;
> with
> ath-=114;

> Further in calc_xmin, I think we have to multiply enmax with
its appropriate ratio, but I\'m not sure about that.


> Robert

So I think this (-114dB) should be default in next version.

macik

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