Frank Klemm schrieb am Mon, 18 Sep 2000:
> ::  > > The whole sfb21 thingy is a kludge, we should extend psymodel.c
> ::  > > to calculate maskings for that band too.
> ::  > >
> ::  > the ATH is so large in that band, I would be afraid that
> ::  > any computed maskings would always be < ATH, and thus
> ::  > not worth computing?
> ::  
> ::  Wouldn't it be possible to use the ATH value as masking (as now), but use
> ::  this value in the masking computing? It should prevent to lower a lot the
> ::  overall masking for sfb21 when using something like --athlower 100. After
> ::  all in the others sfb when using --athlower 100 the whole masking is not
> ::  reduced, only the ATH. I'm afraid that now, using --athlower 100 would
> ::  result in an incredible ammount of bits in the latest sfb. I'll test it and
> ::  post the results.
> ::  
> The main problem of masking at low SPLs is that is weaker than at higher
> SPLs. At 30 dB(A) low frequency and high frequency slope are nearly
> identical. Masking is relative to the masking signal higher, but much faster
> falling into high frequency direction.
> 
>   x 90 dB(A)
> 
>   ___
>      \___     ||
>          \___/  \
>                  \___        ||
>                      \___    ||
>   x 55 dB(A)             \___/ \
>   _                             \___
>    \_                               \___
>      \_
>        \_
>          \_
>            \_
>   x\ 40 dB(A)\_
>     \          \_
>      \           \_
> 
> -- 
> Mit freundlichen Gr��en
> Frank Klemm


Frank, that's not what Gaby is talking about.
But if you are talking about the spreading function, there
are more parameters than loudness:
- frequency
- tonality
- temporal effects
- difference tones reducing masking


Ciao Robert




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