On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, G. Vincent Castellano wrote:

> If the relative phase of the input signal is immaterial to the encoding
> process, then there's no problem with my stereo recordings.  Hmm, since
> I've got the tools to show a mis-phased signal by visual inspection, I 
> suppose I could just go do some tests and see for myself.

I decoded one of my non-downmixed mono MP3s (encoded with --r3mix)
and found that the signals were still out of phase.  So I guess I'm 
stuck, unless it's possible somehow to flip the phase on one of the 
channels of an MP3.
--gvc



> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, alexander lerch wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > In Broadcast, the downmix from a stereo source to a mono
> > destination was often done with a phase shift of 90 degree in
> > one channel.
> > However, if I understood correctly, your source is already
> > mono but recorded in stereo with the phase inverted in one
> > channel. Then, the way to go would be to extract only one
> > channel as Claus suggested.
> > I do not see a way of inverting the phase without decoding.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Alexander
> > 
> > CB Maillist wrote:
> > 
> > > Just adding the channels (even with the phases right) won't necessarily
> > > work. If the stylus has been just slightly turned/twisted adding the
> > > channels will phase out frequencies matching wave length (or harmonics)
> > > of the length of the stylus L/R-track difference. In this case you may
> > > be better of just preserving on channel as the mono signal. 
> > > 
> > > Just FYI
> > > 
> > > mvh
> > > Claus Bruun
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. Vincent
> > > Castellano
> > > Sent: 9. januar 2004 18:58
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [mp3encoder] Inverting phase in an MP3 file
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I need to find a way to invert the phase on a single channel of an MP3
> > > file.  I've not seen any utilities that perform this, and I know enough
> > > to do this with sox, except I've been assured that re-encoding MP3s is a
> > > Bad Thing.  I'd be willing to 
> > > hack the lame source if someone knowledgeable said this was
> > > a feasible approach.
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions would be welcome.
> > > 
> > > Background for those who might wonder how I came to this turn: I've been
> > > digitizing my album collection, and after about 750 disks, decided to
> > > save a bit of space by downsampling a couple of monaural disks to single
> > > channel.  This turned out to be 
> > > a great way to remove the signal and leave me with a recording of mostly
> > > surface noise.  On headphones or even computer speakers, I could live
> > > with bad phasing, but someday I hope to hook this up to a real stereo
> > > and I'd like to get this right.  Flipping the phase on the sound card
> > > output won't cut it either, as I also have a lot of ripped CDs for which
> > > the phasing is of course correct. I think the guys who sold me the
> > > turntable must have wired the cartridge wrong--I would administer a
> > > dope-slap except that I've got several test albums and never applied
> > > them.  I've even seen the phase inversion while looking at .WAVs in snd,
> > > but it never occurred to me what was happening. --gvc
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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