Wesley,
I do not have a strong opinion on this question. However, you keep
mentioning that the testing infrastructure is broken. I wasn't at the
last meeting so I must have missed the discussion there. How would
moving to a repo restore the testing infrastucture?
Cheers
Joseph
On 2/3/20 8:59 PM, Wesley Bland via mpi-forum wrote:
I really want to emphasize how little work this should be for each
person. For people with lots of PRs (like you), I estimate it’ll be less
than 15 minutes before the meeting and less than 15 minutes afterward.
For people with no open pull requests, it’s 0 minutes. If people are
having trouble, I can do “almost” everything for you (other than
clicking the delete and fork buttons). I’m asking for help here because
I’d rather make a small amount for a handful of people instead of a lot
of work for just me. This is also one of the reasons I want to do this
in person, so I can help those having trouble.
The reason we want to do it now is because this only became a problem at
the last meeting when we broke the testing infrastructure. We could keep
pushing this back, but in the meantime, we won’t be getting the benefit
of that testing that we’ve relied on for a while to help make sure that
Bill has an easier time of merging our pull requests (which will be even
more important as we start to finish up these votes).
We didn’t make this decision just to give people more work and I spent a
fair amount of time making this as painless for everyone as possible.
However, unlike some of the other transitions that we’ve made in the
past(e.g. SVN -> Git), we also didn’t have the benefit of a long run-up
to make this change.
Thanks,
Wesley
On Feb 3, 2020, at 1:36 PM, HOLMES Daniel <d.hol...@epcc.ed.ac.uk
<mailto:d.hol...@epcc.ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi Wesley,
This change really won’t be as painful as it sounds
Then why do I have to do a bunch of unexpected/unscheduled backup and
book-keeping work before an arbitrarily chosen deadline? I’m not sure
that springing this surprise on folks is the wisest course of action.
Cheers,
Dan.
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On 3 Feb 2020, at 16:02, Wesley Bland via mpi-forum
<mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org
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Because in the meantime, our testing remains broken and we don’t have
another solution to fix it at the moment. We really want to have that
testing fix.
This change really won’t be as painful as it sounds. There’s almost
no Git commands required. No rebasing/merging/etc.
On Feb 3, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseif...@hlrs.de
<mailto:rabenseif...@hlrs.de>> wrote:
Why aren't we doing this when we finished 4.0, i.e. merged all the
voted in
pull requests into the standard?
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Subject: [Mpi-forum] Time To Open Source MPI
Hi folks,
** Look at the numbered list for your action items before
2020-02-18! **
Since we moved from Subversion to GitHub, there’s been a back and
forth on
whether the MPI Standard Source code should be open source or
closed source. As
you know (since most of you have access to it, we decided to keep
the standard
closed for a few reasons (avoiding rogue copies of the Standard was
a big one),
but recently, the scales have tipped back toward open sourcing and
after
talking to Bill and Martin some more, we think it’s finally time to
open up the
MPI Standard repository. Specifically, these are the issues that
get addressed
by moving to a public repository:
* Participation to the forum has a barrier to entry (i.e. me)
* Our current automated testing system is broken and will not be fixed
* We rely on special dispensation from GitHub for free, private
repositories
I’ll be discussing this in more detail in Portland, but I want to
make folks
aware that this is coming now because it will have some impact on
people who
are actively working on text proposals. The mitigations here should
be pretty
straightforward and I have both slides (for a high level) and a
wiki page (for
details) on what’s happening and what you need to do about it.
The short version for the purpose of this email and your action
item leading up
the forum next week is to do two thing s:
1. Back up your branches.
2. Make a note for each of your open pull requests on where the are
and what
issues they’re attached to.
Detailed notes and the slides I’ll present in Portland on how to do
this are
here: [
https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/wiki/Migrate-to-Public-Repository
|
https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/wiki/Migrate-to-Public-Repository
]
The plan is for me to flip this switch DURING THE FEBRUARY MEETING!
This should
not disrupt any readings for the meeting itself as none of the pull
requests
will actually be deleted, but they will all become stale and we’ll
need to
re-open new ones. The main benefit of doing this during the meeting
is that
if/when anyone has trouble, I’ll be there in person to provide live
help to
anyone else that’s there (sorry, Marc-Andre, you’ll need to follow
my slides
remotely \uD83D\uDE00).
Please email me if you have questions or concerns. If there’s
enough demand, I’d
even be willing to do a short Virtual Meeting on this on Wednesday.
Thanks,
Wesley
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