Nothing like some good suburb bashing.  Nothing like telling the suburban
legislators what you think about them.   It makes a jolly of a time when the
city is before legislative committees controlled by suburbanites.

Craig Miller
Rogers MN
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From: Nathan Hunstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis and the Crosstown


>    It is my understanding that the cities can't agree for the same reason
>they couldn't agree over three decades ago when they started construction:
>neither city wants to tear down houses and businesses.  Neither city wanted
>to do that when I-35W was first proposed.  The original design had I-35W
>gently curving to the southwest at its junction with the Crosstown.  But
>such a diagonal route would mean more right-of-way needed than the straight
>north-south routes Richfield and Minneapolis wanted.  Minneapolis wouldn't
>move I-35W west, Richfield wouldn't move it east, so it was duplexed with
>the Crosstown.  Selah.
>    To fix this interchange properly would necessitate a few things.  The
>first option would be to bite the bullet and do what engineers wanted to do
>in the first place: bend I-35W so it doesn't share a road with 62.  Of
>course, that would mean tearing down neighborhoods again.  We could build a
>new I-35W above 62, stacking the freeway like they do in California.  But
>that would be ugly and expensive.  Or you could bury the freeway like they
>are doing in downtown Boston.  That would take several presidential cycles,
>based on how long it is taking at the Big Dig.  Besides, changing the
>project would mean going through the process again: planning, environmental
>impact statements, the whole mess.
>    Regarding building our way out of congestion: of course we could do it.
>Just look at the above options.  The question is whether we want to do
this.
>I don't.  I commute 20 minutes down University Avenue; no problem here.  If
>highway projects to the outlying 'burbs were financed by those 'burbs --
for
>example, if Eden Prairie, Chanhassen, and Chaska were the ones paying for
>the 212 expansion -- I wouldn't care as much.  But I don't need 212 or 610.
>I have seen what is happening to Brooklyn Park with the new 610.  Where
>there was nothing a few years ago, now there are bright gas stations all
>over the place, along with housing developments that look like mushrooms
>sprouting up on a farm.  Ugly, ugly, ugly.
>    Regarding light rail along I-35W: if I remember correctly, this was the
>original alignment.  It would sure make a lot more sense than running the
>line from a place where few live through a place where people just travel
>through to end in a place where nobody lives.  I will spare the PRT rant
for
>now.
>
>
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>Nathan Hunstad
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>Minneapolis, MN
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