When I first saw the "Snipe Advertising" post I was reminded of an old 
Boy Scout camping game that was played on 'newbies.'  We sat them around 
a lonely, small campfire armed with sticks in the depths of night to 
'hunt snipes.'  And as soon as a snipe was bagged the lucky one could 
tent for the rest of the night.

May I also point out that a Snipe is a long-billed wading bird of genus 
Capella.  Snipe also has a meaning of 'to shoot from concealment.'

Okay, so enough of this.

>The snipe dialogue has been interesting, and typical
>for our forum, it once again illuminates the lack of
>class consciousness on the list.  
>
>A few people have said how they like to see bands
>advertised or don't mind the lost pet signage, but
>when it comes to advertising for jobs or weightloss -
>yuck, I want no part of that.  Could it be that band
>ads and to an extent, lost pet signage, are of more
>interest to a working/middle class person.  They have
>the leisure and income to support the arts and own
>pets.  
>
>When it comes to advertising for a job, we would
>prefer not to think about jobless people, or we would
>like to think that people are not so needy, or
>"unskilled" as to get a job from a poster on a pole. 
>The same could be said for the weight loss signage,
>where the working & middle class can go to weight
>watchers, jenny craig, intellinutrients, the poor
>probably do not have the interest or cash to do so.  
>
>I think this breakdown of appropriate and
>inappropriate snipage is a breakdown between
>acknowledging the poor, and not acknowledging the
>poor.  We of the self-appointed middle (or the trendy
>acknowledgement of being working class (for the kids))
>do not even want to consider that our neighbors are so
>un-savvy that they have no better way to get a job or
>diet-plan than to get it off a pole.  I think that our
>discomfort with these types of snipage is directly
>attributable to our discomfort in dealing with the
>poor, our perceptions of the poor, and our role in
>helping/perpetuating the conditions of poverty.
>
>Jon Kelland
>Bryant


John Ferman
Harriet Avenue
Kingfield Neighborhood
Minneapolis
Ward 10 Pct 10
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