Even if what Mr. Cross wrote in his post were true, which it is not,
the points being made are irrelevant.  Paul Zerby has stated
publicly on a number of occasions that he is opposed to students
being members of our neighborhood association.  But, to answer
Mr. Cross, I will use his own words.

Steve Cross wrote:

> The Articles of Incorporation and the Bylaws of PPERRIA say not one word
> about "students" and membership.  (Now "not one word" in this case means
> "none," "nothing," "no," "zip," "zero," etc.  I need to say that because
> some people are known to believe that "no" just means "maybe.")

In a post dated, Wed, 13 Jun 2001 and titled, "Re: [Mpls] Open Records"
Mr. Cross stated at that time:

   "With the construction of University Village, PPERRIA had a university
   dormitory within the neighborhood for the first time.  Almost 1,000
   students lived there during the school year.  In response, a change was
   made to say that membership was open to "permanent" residents of the
   neighborhood.  PPERRIA is an open organization and any permanent
   resident can and do join.  The word "permanent" would not include
   dormitory students who, by their nature, live here for only the 9-month
   school year."

It is clear that the intent was to exclude students.  It is also misleading
because University Village is not a dormitory, it is an apartment complex
designed for students.  The students who live there for the "9-month school
year" are entitled to vote in the election on November 6, but are not
entitled to join PPERRIA.

> I know of at least one student who is a member and he's that disruptive
> member who is now on the Board of Directors.  Whether there are more
> student members, I think there probably are but I really don't know for
> sure.  There is but one kind of PPERRIA member and we neither request
> nor keep demographic information on our members.

So the president of PPERRIA knows of only one member who
is a student?  I find that astounding, when he claims that PPERRIA
is an open organization.  It's like saying, "Well, we do have one
Black member."  Which I think is also true.  One student and one
African American out of 400+ members.  Now there's diversity
for you.  And, he calls ME "disruptive"!  If it was anyone else other
than me, I think that they'd be down right violent by now.

> I have also heard recently that some unknown people are saying that
> "renters" can't join PPERRIA.  I have heard it is being said that
> residents of Glendale can't join PPERRIA.

> NONE of that is true.  (I'm sorry, so that some people don't
> misunderstand, I need to clarify that "none" means "none.")  You may be
> confident that anyone saying the contrary is peddling misinformation.
> That such things are being peddled says more about the goals of those
> doing the peddling than about the facts.

I hope that list members know what a "strawman" argument is.
I would like to know who the "unknown people" are that Mr. Cross
has heard this from. I am almost positive that I have not read any
comments to this effect on the list server.

Michael Atherton
Prospect Park


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