To David Piehl:

Here are my responses to your characterization and version of the facts
regarding the I-35W Access Project.  It should be clarified that we are
talking about two separate projects when discussing the Access Project and
Lake Street reconstruction/ streetscaping.  The County is administering both
projects.  Lake Street, from 5th Avenue west to Lyndale is currently thought
to begin reconstructing and streetscaping in 2005 as a response to plans for
reopening Nicollet Avenue, providing new on and off ramps and the traffic
model forecasted natural growth (without either of these projects) for the
year 2020.  This construction needs to be timed with both the Access Project
and reopening of Nicollet .  From 5th Avenue east to West River Parkway the
County will be reconstructing/streetscaping Lake Street as a separate
project.  A citizen based Project Advisory Committee for the Lake Street
work is now being formed.  

Here are my specific responses to a number of your issues mentioned in your
recent postings.

1.  Your allegation that the taxpayer was fleeced by the consultant who did
the analysis of I-35W below Lake Street rather than the current situation is
inaccurate.  You speculated that this study cost $15,000.  Accountings from
the consultant indicate that no more than $2,300 was spent on this task.  On
June 25 the Project Advisory Committee voted unanimously to not consider
this idea any further and some members questioned why we had bothered to
spend any time on it in the first place.  In response other PAC members
recalled that they looked at nearly 30 alternatives in the course of their
work, several of these alternatives were suggested by you when you were a
PAC member.  So, the Committee felt that to analyze this idea was not
unusual or inappropriate.  PAC members were very pleased with the consultant
report.

2.  Mn/DOT's right-of-way width in the Lake Street area is 287.5 feet, 2nd
and Stevens Avenues are not included in this width, as you have reported,
because both streets were conveyed back to the City of Minneapolis long ago.
They are city streets and not part of Mn/DOT's right-of-way.  For more
information on this call John Griffith at Mn/DOT (651-582-1000).  

3.  The freeway bridge over 31st Street is 144 feet wide.  The width of the
lanes and shoulders at 32nd Street is 135 feet.  Add the existing on/off
ramps and the curb to curb width is 225 feet.  At Lake Street the curb to
curb width is 170 feet.  The difference between the right-of-way width and
the widths of lanes and shoulders is 117.5 feet.  For the most part, this
difference consists of gradual slopes because this is a freeway where
vehicles are intended to move non-stop at a high rate of speed.  We know
that this doesn't always happen because of peak hour congestion, but the
slopes are an integral part of the freeway because from time to time
vehicles end up off the road and the gradual slopes are intended to avoid
major harm.  Creating gradual slopes in urban areas is not always possible,
but they are a needed part of freeway design just like lanes, shoulders,
bridges, etc.  It is a Primary Arterial designed to handle significant
levels of traffic much more Minor Arterials such as Lake Street (currently
180,000 vehicles per day versus Lake Street in the low 20's).  

4.  Lake Street will never be redesigned as a freeway.  As said above it is
a Minor Arterial with a much lower posted speed and signals requiring
frequent stops.  Slopes are not needed and therefore the right-of-way width
can be much less.  On Lake Street, from 3rd Avenue west to Blaisdell (5
blocks), short segments of additional "through" lanes are being recommended
along with turn lanes where necessary to allow traffic to safely turn onto
local streets, and into businesses, housing, etc.  From Blaisdell west and
from 5th Avenue east the number of "through" lanes will not change on Lake
Street (2 in each direction) and parking will be continued on both sides.
There are more than 50 blocks between Lyndale and West River Parkway.  So we
are talking about widening essentially 5 blocks within this 50+ block area.


5.  In my July 1 e-mail I indicated that 133 feet was the worst case and
only within a short segment of this 5 block area.  Included in the 133 feet
was 30 feet of sidewalk (15 on each side) and wide center medians (18 to 32
feet) for streetscaping and safe places for pedestrians to wait when unable
to cross in one light cycle.  Work is currently under way, in conjunction
with Sherman Associates, finding ways to reduce the necessary width.  I
doubt that you have seen the drawings and design work prepared for this by
the PAC.  Scaled models depicting the Lake Street bridge design options,
including opportunities for retail space, have also been developed.  I would
expect that when you actually see them, you will no longer feel compelled to
alarm residents by describing Lake Street as a perspective "freeway".  

6.  I do not intend to respond to anymore of your postings.  I find your
accusations and statements about me and others, especially Commissioner
McLaughlin, to be totally inaccurate, distorted and without fact.  I stand
ready to meet with you and others from your ENUFF group at any time and at
any place.  I can bring technical people along to help discuss their
findings, conclusions and recommendations.  I am wanting this opportunity so
that your next posting will be based on accurate information and facts.  If
you disagree with these facts, that's fine, and I hope that you will express
your disagreement publicly.  I will not attempt to persuade you or in any
way influence your thinking on this project.  I don't expect that I would
have much success anyway.  As I said, I do not intend to respond to anymore
of your postings, but will look forward to our next communication
opportunity occurring during this meeting.  I sincerely hope that you will
contact me to arrange it.  

Tom Johnson
Transportation Consultant
SMITH PARKER, P.L.L.P
Phone:  (612) 344-1400
Fax:  (612) 344-1550
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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